the same on the print side but it s challenging trump s claim. trump went against the times in another tweet. he said that he believes the paper apologized for its coverage last week and that he believes they ll make the same mistakes in the future. we ll get into that now. the panel is back with me, dodai stewart of fusion, dan rather of access tv, so let me ask all of you to react to this and talk about how donald trump is using twitter to his benefit. molly, he says in a m 60 minute interview, that he ll be restrained with twitter but will continue to use twitter and facebook. do you believe he s stepping off on the wrong foot by making these comments against the times and the media on twitter? i would say after this week the question about whether donald trump is doing things wrong is different than what the media is doing wrong. this is very common in president
don t tell half-truths, don t shade the truth. don t fear the truth. and then we can focus on the other t word trust. winning back the trust of people who right now prefer anti-media. with that in mind, let s ask, how will journalism change in the age of trump? how should it change? joining me now is a perfect panel, dodai stewart is back, editor-in-chief of fusion dot net, john avalon, editor and chief of the daily beast, liz plank, producer for vox and john phillips, talk show host and political columnist at the orange county register. you wrote the kaley beast will be part of the loyal opposition. what does that mean in the next four years. what i think that means is that we don t hope president trump fails like rush limbaugh said after president obama was elected. we hope he succeeds. but we recognize that we our job is more important than ever before to hold a president to account. our job is to inform, to separate truth from lies and to insist on a fact-based debate
the discourse before and after is irresponsible. the national polls will wind up being off by only two points which is less than they were in 2012. in the states you see bigger polling errors in the midwest. you also see clinton beat her polls in new york, in california, oregon, washington. that s interesting. i ve been focusing on how some state polls underestimated trump s support by 7%, 8%. that s way beyond the margin of error. clinton beat her polls by 5 points in california. that means you rack up a huge number of popular votes and almost match obama s margin in the popular vote but lose the electoral college decisively. is so it s not a matter of polls underestimating trump, it s not catching up to the demographic changes under way in the country. is there a bigger failure among journalistings, among television anchor, among editors when we boil down the numbers into a very simple portrayal? there are a couple things. you can have a lot of polls say
2020 and 2018 but let ses say they have an accurate year from the polls in 2020, they might overcompensate for 20, 24. nate, thank you so much, good to see you. interesting stuff from nate silver there. now we want to look forward. as we were talking about with silver, what about future coverage? what about a donald trump presidency and its effect on the media. trump is gloding this morning. look at his twitter fweed. he says wow, the new york times are losing thousands of subscribers because of their very poor and highly inaccurate coverage of the trump phenomena. we have fact checked this with the new york times. t new york times in a statement to me says since election day the paper has seen a surge in digital subscriptions, three times what is normal. yes, there s been cancellations on the digital side when you factor that in the rate at the times haas added net knew digital subscriptions since election day they say is since times the normal pace. what the times is sayi
data most viewers, most americans believed clinton would win. now this did not occur in a having satoshi uematsu. the donald trump campaign also thought it was likely to lose. wall street thought trump would use, too. but chalking this up to a surprise victory is not enough. this was a collective failure a fill your of imagination. in some ways, a mass delusion. and the media contributed to it. so now it s time for some serious soul searching. look, i don t subscribe to the argument that tv networks gave trump too much attention and that s the main reason why he s president, nor do i subscribe to the argument that reporters ignored trump s america. there were outstanding reports and eye-opening cable news debate this is year but i know some of you watching right now are having a very hard time trusting this channel and every other news source so we on the other side of the screen over here have to reckon with that,