we re back with new york times legal writer emily bazelon for the magazine. welcome back. when you see a top republican official say his defense is trump ordered him to do it, what s your analysis of that? i imagine the prosecutors are really happy to hear that he is willing to say that and give them documents that confirm. it looks like what he s saying. because when you bring many part-time under indictment this way, yes, you re charging them all under rico, but you are hoping that the lower people on the totem pole are going to cooperate in a way that it gets other people up. that s what and mr. schafer are doing today. yeah, in a rico case that s bad for whoever the accused ringleader is. in this case donald trump stands
hi, ari. hi, nicolle. thanks so much. i m ari melber. tonight we have a special report on a story that we broke and we have been bringing you updates on a report on the meaning of these roger stone tapes, why they go out more widely than just his own criminal exposure, and in writing a response from him tonight. he s not on the program, but he wrote a response to what we broke last night. i will share that with you as well as the hour continues. we begin with major news involving the georgia case against donald trump s many indicted coconspirators. because we are seeing the wheels of justice turn, and if you have been living through this in america and you ve followed, say, the case in new york, which is mostly about donald trump s business history, and perhaps some of his potential campaign finance shenanigans or the case in federal courts in washington, which involve donald trump and one or two other people, well, now we re seeing the wheels of justice grind in a very different w
courthouse, and our reporter asked him some questions. it was going to be interesting to find out what the defendant had to say. do you still think the election is stolen? absolutely. absolutely. still. no question. and you won t answer on immunity from prosecution? won t answer. do you think others have a standing on that in that case, like meadows in. no comment. did they do a mug shot and everything inside? no comment. who s paying your legal fees? i am. you saw some of the questions there from multiple reporters, including our nbc colleague alley vitali. while he did duck some answers he also started revealing things, including he is paying his own legal fees, meaning donald trump and his pacs are not, which adds information that his own lawyer didn t want to reveal last night. mr. eastman, who has broke so many rules i mean, he s facing disbarment and while
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are being prosecuted, and most importantly, i think also the question about payment, who s paying the bills. i think the hard reality of trump s loyalty has been born out here, and yeah you want to get into that. well, look, yeah, the reality i ll bring one up. i ll bring something up, michael. there has to be lines and values. there has to be accountability. on the other hand, i don t wish suffering on people. i think the best road is facts, accountability, redemption. i ve covered case where is people made mistakes. they came out better on the other side. hopefully they didn t reoffend. we don t want more coups. i see ms. ellis, she went way