he owned roughly $12 million in debt. he s put his home up collateral to the bank. so he really is running kind of on a shoestring right now. i would b thinking twice about racking up further legal bills to be loyal to a president who doesn t seem to be returning the favor. michael a husband, a father of two kid and he has a lot that s on his plate r w so be more loyal to, himself and his family, or the president, if that comes to pass. we have to say if because obviously no indictment has been filed as of this moment. gabe, just back to our original topic. talk to me about how complicated it can be to report on the people surrounding the president, the president s world. yeah. i mean clearly, a lot of the people who have worked with the president have taken studied him and figured out what works