is happening in the west wing. having been there, you know, i would read things in the newspaper about supposedly what was happening that had no relationship to reality. i do think this. i do think there is evidence there is competing power centers in the west wing where people are vying with each other and leaking on each other and dysing each other to the press at an unprecedented level for this early in the administration. second of all, there are there is not a clarity of who is in charge. that s why we got the executive order rolled out on immigration without the secretary of homeland security being able to be in a meeting with the president to say i object to elements of it and why things were rushed on that. it is why they re losing control of the narratives. i would be concerned about flynn. i would be concerned about the leaks. but i would be even more concerned about the fact that this president was elected by people who wanted to have the economy improved, jobs created and
result of repeal. bill: no schedule. no big schedule. bill: you can t say weeks or months? there are some things that will happen in the next couple of weeks like the budget taking out obamacare taxes, for example. the president signed an executive order recently repealing a lot of the regulations that go on obamacare. in terms of a full repeal, bill, we won t see that i think for at least a year or two. bill: wow. interesting reporting, katie. when you get more, come back. katie pavlich from washington today. thank you. shannon: our nation s capitol leaking lick a sieve exposing national secrets including methods and sources to reveal contacts between trump advisors and the russians. which is worse? talking to the russians or the leaks themselves? it is extremely concerning. it is not for me to say where they re coming from but it is taken seriously by our president.
the polling numbers you see when it comes to whether people think this order makes them safer or not there is a wider margin there. 42% say they think it makes them safer. 33% no safe and the perception is among the american public thinks it keeps them where they are or safer. they think that. when it comes to national security experts if you listen to general petraeus and the former head of dhs tom ridge and john mccain and lindsey graham. they say it makes us less safe and you know what? i m not a foreign policy expert. i will defer to the foreign policy experts on this. and one thing i have to agree with john on here is that this was rolled out really poorly. not a crisis of branding, it s a crisis of confidence. and, you know, the president likes to talk about how this is all about extreme vetting. the irony here he didn t get this executive order vetted by
standard . welcome to you both. this executive order by the president is upside down. it is. it is somewhat in line with his overall job approval rating. it s slightly positive 48% approve. what we ve seen in this poll and others the approval of the travel ban mirrors with that. i do think the fact that it s slightly on the negative side rather than being strongly positive has to do with the roll-out. the fact that people didn t know at the beginning whether those in transit would be caught up in it or not and legal permanent residents. whether people who fought alongside troops in the time of war were caught up in this and got president trump to carve out an exception and a baby girl from iran needing heart surgery. if they had thought through these ahead of time i think it would have been a strongly positive in the polls. but i think that all those problems in the beginning set them off on the wrong foot. shannon: when you dig into
bill: smugglers finding new ways to get drugs across the border here. earlier in the week border patrol agents near arizona found a catapult attached to the border wall made to chuck bundles of marijuana into territory. 47 pounds of the drug found. agents dismantled the catapult seized by mexican authorities. shannon: the trump administration hasn t told us what its next steps will be in trying to get the president s executive order on travel reinstated. according to a fox news poll think the order makes american safer but most americans disapprove of the order, 52%. only 46% say they approve. the division is sharply along party lines. the former deputy campaign manager for martin o malley and a reiter for the weekly