i think this is zoomed for failure from the beginning. this is a disaster of a rollout that s occurring. he voted to roll out an even larger federal exchange. yet, every single republican on the house ways and means committee voted for a plan that would put 50 million seniors on to health care exchanges. so if as people say the rollout of obama care discredits liberal government, it discredits the conservative vision too. joining me now is the governor of massachusetts who s overseeing the implementation of that state s health care plan. and now, the first question, governor, is, as we watch these rollout of the health care exchanges, it is as if this is some completely untested martian experiment and there is no example of this ever having worked in human history. so as someone who is the governor of a state where essentially a version of this law is implemented. what is your take on the last
it is not our position to tell our client whether they should go live or not go live. all of the risks that we saw and all the concerns we had regarding testing were all shared with cms? that is decision made by cms. that is a cms call. that is contract not a contract towel call. we informed cms more testing was necessary. sir we re never been the systems integrate tore and we are not the systems integrator. who is charge for the systems integrator? cms is in charge end to end. bill: kevin brady, republican on the house ways and means committee. you will be in the hearing room. good morning bill. bill: what is your first question? you thought about it overnight. what did you come up with? like many americans, we have a lot of questions about the website, what is becoming clear the flaw is not simply the website. the flaw is the law itself. when you try to inject 159 new federal agencies, bureaucracies and commissions between you and
a divided government we saw a historic tax package that was passed that led to unprecedented growth. we can do that again today, but we need the white house to get involved and to work with us. the president, i have to think, knows that we have to get tax reform. but to refuse to engage, to refuse to have the secretary of treasury work with the ways and means committee and senate finance committee is just unacceptable. i would say come to the table, and let s negotiate. bill: you said you said something that s very interesting. you don t believe he has the relationships with members of congress, be it in the house or the senate. that s correct. bill: is that what you think? who would you consider his closest allies then? well, i can t name one, and that s a problem. the fact of the matter is getting things done in this town requires building working relationships and a little element of trust even though we ve got our own partisan differences. and the fact of the matter is if you
come to some negotiated agreement on some of these things. you know, tax reform, we re moving forward, we ve been working on this for two and a half years, and i m optimistic we ll have a very good pro-growth package that will be fair, it will eliminate all the inequities in the tax code, it will actually make the tax code fair for americans across the board, lower rates and promote growth especially for our small enterprises that are trying to, you know, struggle through this difficult economy. bill: do you think democrats will dance with you on that onesome. well, we have some positive signs. you know bill: you do? the chairman of the senate finance committee, a democrat, has been working with dave camp, chairman of our ways and means committee, a republican, and we have some common ground. we have to continue to pursue the common ground. but we also have to fight smart. there are ways to deal with obamacare in a smart way that brings democrats onboard, ultimately, so we can ac
into law late last night, it happened after midnight, i do believe. so the deadlines ahead, well, about 90 days from now we might be back at it again. here was the question from the room at the white house last night. mr. president, do you think it s going to happen all over again in a few months? no. bill: will it? republican congressman charles pew stainny of louisiana, he s on the house ways and means committee. good good morning to you. thank you for your time. as we await the president, we may interrupt you. our viewers are aware of that as well. are we just back here again in a matter of months? well, i hope not, but i m concerned, that is one of my biggest concerns. it s incumbent upon us now, especially members of the ways and means committee where a lot of these big issues need to be worked out whether it s a deficit reduction package or pro-growth tax reform, we have to get to work. and the dysfunction we ve seen in washington which came to a head over the last three we