of here somehow, and maybe trying to tiptoe away on air force one. this seems to be a trump junior production. though importantly in the meeting now, we learned in a complete self-inflected error, one of many by rudy giuliani, we learned there was a premeeting attended by others, rick gates, the cooperator in monofoert. that s going to be a lot of information to tell mueller. yeah. i think one of the things harry said that was really relevant is that the crime does not have to be successful. you can conspire in something that fails and you still committed a crime. so harry made an excellent point. that s why there s attempted murder and attempted murder. conspiracy the crime is the agreement. cnn is reporting michael cohen is prepared to say president trump approved to the meeting with the russians. trump did not attend the meeting
we ve seen poisoning incidents in the uk of former russians who have flipped against russia. so i think that may also be what is keeping manafort from cooperating. glen, you re getting to the crux of the question i asked michael there. insinuating fear. it appears there might be some fear from him if he is guilty of doing what is being alleged here. yeah. yeah. michael, i want to talk about some of the other characters. rick gates is key in this case and flynn and papadopoulos. haven t heard from specifically mueller has gotten out of them. you heard glen saying that well, maybe he thinks that gates is better and is a cooperating witness and it s better to deal with and the information is similar? i think gates was involved and the right hand man to manafort in their operations, so
gates, of course, was not cooperating until after the charges were filed. they were prepared to proceed without rick gates on board. they have all the documentary evidence. like jeff just said, these are individual income taxes that paul manafort lied about, not to mention some properties on which there was mortgage fraud, had nothing to do with rick gates in the hamptons and in brooklyn. he is going to have a really hard time ping all of this on rick gates, for sure. the push from the president s allies arguing that paul manafort was nobody on their campaign, he only worked there for four months, i think the president said 49 days at one point. they can try to put all the distance they want between him and the president, but he wasn t the coffee boy. he was the campaign chairman. i think the smarter tactic here is to remind people over and over these charges have absolutely nothing to do with the campaign. and even the witnesses being put forward have nothing to do with the campai
the trial of paul manafort underway today with branding the former trump campaign a liar with an extravagant lifestyle. manafort s team planning to blame rick gates. joining me now is laura coats and page pate. good evening to both of you. good evening. it was all the fault of rick gates and the russian oligarchs. what do you make of manafort s strategy? he s grasping at straws. the only defense when you have a document heavy case. documents speak for themselves. the only strategy is ignore the documents and know who is probably the main informant for the government is somebody he cannot trust.