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conversation that whether his mormonism is a liability. he may be able to turn this to his advantage. he s starting to do that with remarks about civil ilt. to make it about a broader values judgment. that s what he s going to try to do in the days ahead. you ll hear his people and others reminding us all that barack obama was able to win despite questions about his faith. it may not be determinant either. how about herman cain, he has been surging in the polls. he won another straw poll in minnesota this weekend. does he have a realistic chance of winning the nomination? i m still dubious of that. but he s had a lot of wins lately. he s doing really well. been lively in the debates and we have another one coming up this next week. he s really been on the rise. he s feeling strong. i think there are a lot of skeptics that would say, well, this is just temporary, this is in some ways a protest vote. i mean, i will get e-mails for having said that. it s still a long shot for him. the

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111009:14:00:00

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111009:14:00:00
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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111009:14:20:00

fingerprints are there for everyone to see. they call it a broad swath through the south the bible belt for good reason. are people in texas more exposed to rhetoric like the pastors on regular basis versus a more national audience? are we more exposed to what? to the words of someone like pastor jeffers, you talk about mormonism being a cult. do you think people throughout the south, but specifically the question to you regarding texas, are folks in texas more exposed to it? well, i think so. obviously, there s a large evangelical community in the south and here in texas. it depends on what church you attend. and i think one of the reasons this makes people uncomfortable, the republican party did a very good job of making sure they had this conversation a lot of times when microphones weren t around. and they had their audience before them when they were going to have this conversation.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111009:14:33:00

from last go around. about what pastor jeffers suggesting he s not a christian. do you think that affected the voting? i know he didn t say it at the proceed yum or members of the audience. afterward he said it. you got to bet people heard about that. they did. honestly, it was an unfortunate distraction. i certainly don t agree with pastor jeffers remarks. and it probably did hurt him, though. just the controversy surrounding it. okay. i want to understand the values voter. would you rather stay home on election day than vote for a mormon? is being a mormon an automatic disqualifier for some evangelical christians? i would certainly hope not. this is about values and values are not specific to any one religion as we ve seen. what we have also seen is that we all come together. mitt romney as a mormon and what

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20111009:14:37:00

value voter summit defeating barack obama in 2012 is the most important goal that we have. okay. tom, mcclusky thank you for joining us. appreciate that. thank you. we ll go to michael smerconish. michael, what do you think about the conversation there? i think that when voters wake up on a sunday morning and the vast majority of the country is not represented by people who were in that room and the take away, the headline is how a leader of the organization in and interview equates mormonism with a cult, i think it s a net negative and a loser for the gop field. that s what i think. because this is the headline. this is the story. in the same way, alex, when there was a debate recently and the boo ing of a gay soldier was the headline, in the same way that when rick perry at a prior debate was asked about the number of executions in texas and there was applause before he responded. in the same way that there was

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