secretary of state initially said good idea and we re told the people at the pentagon those expected to fight in the war said no. why can we give them stinger missiles, javelin missiles, bullets, guns but not planes? my hope is that conversation isn t over. what we need to do is move that conversation out of the glare of the media so all the s a pects can be fully vetted to ensure if we do those can be provided to the ukrainian pilots fly them into ukraine and fly them off the ukrainian airfield so they can get those aircraft into the air to dispute the air to prevent that kind of bombing like we saw at the maternity hospital in mariupol. that s not something we should take off the table. we should still have that conversation. if you re at the pentagon and having a meeting about this, why would the generals at the pentagon or the secretary of
city. one man is blind, he has nowhere to go even if he gets on an evaluation bus evacuation bus, and the russian shells were falling and exploding and the devastation is significant, buildings collapsing in on themselves and people stuck there and that s really what the ukrainian people are concerned about with the artillery in the distance, they re worried that the scenes we ve seen in mariupol and kharkiv. when you mentioned the devastation, we ve seen russian forces to the northwest and northeast, getting closer as you well know, the closer the troops get, the more accuracy and the more damage that the artillery shelling can inflict. mind you, the missile launches, along with aerial bombardment,
of the war from across eastern ukraine, including mariupol. the city they left behind is in ruins. barely a building is left unscathed by russian shelling, and according to the city council 3000 civilians have been killed. many of them lie where they fell, others are hastily buried by neighbours. a russian imposed deadline for mariupol s defenders to surrender was ignored. so the shelling continues. some residents stay in makeshift shelters. those who can flee north. nearly everyone who leaves mariupol in cars packed with families arrives here with absolutely nothing at all. and it is to places like this they come, waiting patiently for the very basics, food, clothes, and medicines. children get hand me down toys. their mothers, the bare essentials. here they avoid talking too much about what people have gone through. it s too soon. it s also an effort dealing
go from the basement? we are cooking out a fire. for now we have food and firewood but in a week we ll have nothing. no food at all. our correspondent wyre davies has been speaking to families who have escaped mariupol and reached the city of dnipro. in recent days, we have seen how cruel this conflict is especially for children. but there is just occasionally kindness and humanity too. this community run centre in the central city of dnipro is the first point of safety and refuge for many victims of the war from across eastern ukraine, including mariupol. the city they left behind is in ruins. barely a building is left unscathed by russian shelling, and according to the city council 3000 civilians have been killed. many of them lie where they fell, others are hastily buried by neighbours. a russian imposed deadline for mariupol s defenders to surrender was ignored. so the shelling continues.
it s the part of the land bridge between crimea and russia proper. it s also the gateway that would take land forces toward odesa. but it also has this other kind of emotional aspect to it for putin. mariupol was the largest city in the donbas. it s occurconsidered in the don but it was the place that actually repelled russian efforts to take over the donbas, and it was successful in that in 2014. and so there s kind of, i think, some revenge as well as being of utmost strategic importance. horrifying revenge that s really catching a lot of civilians in the crossfire. and at the same time this is happening, ukraine s president volodymyr zelenskyy says he wants to negotiate with putin. but do you think that putin is interested in a real negotiation and zelenskyy warned that this could lead to world war iii.