using the war planes if they are transferred they would see as a potential engagement in this conflict. is there a fear that if poland and romania gives the ukraine the migs, russia would attack poland or romania? well, i think we should not listen to the spokesperson and listen directly to mr. putin. mr. putin has already said that our economic measures are, our sanctions have brought us into the war. so in his mind we are in this war. eric: tell us about what s in his mind, the russian forces are closing in on kyivi and there s a siege of kyiv, what if we start ad berlin air lift and drop food, would putin see that as a sign of war and something that s provocative? in fact, some very learned and highly respected colleagues a couple of my mentors are now