reported them. emily: but the media gives the voice to some fringe, hot ridiculous take. harris: poor ruth malone. i mean, come on! you know what? i think about this, though, and i wonder where ruth is really comfortable. i mean, is she would she be better off if she didn t have the right to vote? she compared this to women s suffrage. would she be better off if we didn t have a civil rights movement in the 1960s. you re right, irony of the argument is its on juneteenth. i don t understand what makes ruth malone happy. can we get to that spot so she doesn t have to keep riding. emily: apparently, my voice doesn t matter because i like to be in the kitchen. we ve already expunged that according to the media that put that. kayleigh: i hope that pete might become the cyclist spokesperson. he took his bike out after he pulled into the white house and did that stunt riding in. ruth, reach out to pete. he may take you up on it. and we d get some good material
her book, on juneteenth. is this out in paperback? not yet. still selling like hotcakes. i loved your book because i loved i loved you describing your relationship with the state of texas. it reminded me what faulkner said about the south. i love the south. i hate the south. you never really got to the i hate texas, but you identify yourself as a texan. this was a texas holiday. when other states tried to take your holiday, you felt a little possessive, didn t you? at first. at first, it was a juvenile response. no, my family s roots go back very, very far in texas on my mother s side, to 1820s. my father s, the 1850s. most of my family is in texas. we didn t sort of join the great migration and move to other parts of the country. they moved to little towns in texas and big towns in texas.
it s been just over a year since george floyd was murdered at the hands of the minneapolis police. and it s been just over a week since derek chauvin was sentenced for that murder. in that span, the country has seen massive protests, statues come down, schools change their policies all to be more equitable and try to remove remnants of the country s racist past. a president prone to racist dog whistles was voted out of office. the new president signed a law making juneteenth a federal holiday. it would seem that the arc of history may be bending to its justice. is it? for the state of race in america, i want to talk to annette gordon-reed. she is a professor at harvard and a pulitzer prize-winning historian. her new book is on juneteenth. annette gordon-reed, welcome to the show. glad to be here.