we will not see that charge. we learned yesterday that governor brian kemp was contacted by jack smith s office. and we just talked about william russell, ex trump aide, who was with trump on january six. you testified to the grand jury about trump s state of mind around this period. that s what a source familiar with the matter told nbc news. what does russell system detail about the prosecutor s direction and if kemp was just contacted, how far away could we d be from a potential indictment? the second one first, lindsey, i think he has been contacted or other people that they want to speak with, as opposed to putting the grand jury really doesn t have an impact on timing. we ve also heard them say bernard kerik. they continue to interview folks with just kept them on the grand jury. on the first, will. russell is very interesting. it is their time on the grand cherry, prosecutors do not like to put people back on the grand jury, because they may be produce slightly varying state
the judge said, he has the right to testify, which has been waived but he has second thoughts all athletes considerate. trump attorney, joe tacopina, said he spoke with trump on thursday morning and he had no intention of testifying. he indicated a change in strategy was unlikely. trump s lawyers did not call any witnesses in his defense. choosing to try to make their case through cross-examination of carroll s witnesses. earlier on thursday, jury watch the video deposition trump gave an october. during the 30 minutes of testimony trump agreed that he made the allegedly defamatory statements that he didn t know carole, that she was in this type, and that she made up the story. he said he stood by the comments. the jury also heard from another friend of carole who said carroll told her about the alleged rape at the time. on cross examination, trump s attorneys presented the friend with text messages and emails. she sent speaking negatively of trump. in an effort to suggest her testimony
they can tell a story that is consistent with the testimony, yes, i remember her saying this to me at the time, that can be very persuasive testimony for a jury to say, no, she didn t just make this up, this year or last year, she has been telling this same story since way back when it happened. and in a case like this, this is the kind of testimony that can really tip the balance to that 51% that a civil plaintiff needs to prevail. trump s attorneys tried to argue that carroll is in it for money, part of a political vendetta. we heard a little bit about that on cross examination, trump s attorney asking about her political affiliation, the negative things she said about the former president. does that undermine her testimony? well, it is a classic tactic for cross examination is to try to demonstrate to the jury that the person has a bias to lie, to attack the credibility. but i think it is something that lawyers tend to overplay. just because somebody doesn t like you doesn t mea
wanting to harm or hur anybody. the state said, that is jus semantics. on cross examination prosecutor samantha connec pointed out that despite lyon claim, that he had not specifically asked for that to be killed, he didn t exactly shy away from violent talk snatch, or put her in, room and tell her if she doesn believe leave, i m going t kill her parents right? if that s what he said. did you say mr. jacobs? sure. as for the arms claim, he never suggested killing meghan did you jump thousand corridor, and stop the heart it would kill them yes that is a doctor? yes and when we ask a question, if he didn t feel aggrieve phrased it right, he rephras it for us. i feel like he thought he wa smarter then human eye if you just want to smack him? yes
a lot. on the upper body and head. reporter: keep in mind investigators first on the scene who testified for the state said they didn t see any blood on alex murdaugh that night. the state has suggested he washed up and changed clothes after allegedly killing his wife and son. on cross examination, the state took issue with this witness s conclusion that a foot print found in the feed room where paul was killed belonged to paul s killer. you haven t seen the report that identified those as paul s foot prints? definitively defined as paul s? no i did not. you only saw the reports the defense wanted you to see. i got the reports that were supplied to me, yes. place your left hand on the bible. reporter: the defense called one of murdaugh s brothers john marvin murdaugh as its last witness. he painted a picture of his brother as a loving family man and left the jury with this disturbing description of having to pick up the pieces of his nephew, paul, in the feed room.