three years ago i welcomed my next guest to the radio program to discuss the american psychological association s repudiation of gay to straight therapy. as president of exodus international, the largest evangelical organization dealing with this issue, alan chambers believed you could pray away the gay. let s listen. i m denying the power those things had over me. people say once you re gay, you re always gay, you can t break free from that. that s not true. chambers even appeared with his wife in ads saying change is possible, but now, he s saying there s no cure for homosexuality and therapy doesn t wipe out homosexual desires. he is still president of exodus and husband and father of two kids and is joining me now. mr. chambers, what happened? what accounts for the change in position? i want to be clear about what those changes are. my life is still as it was when i was on your radio program three years ago, and i still
three years ago i welcomed my next guest to the radio program to discuss the american psychological association s repeatuation of gay to straight therapy. as president of exodus international, the largest evangelical organization dealing with this issue, alan chambers believed you could pray away the gay. let s listen. i m denying the power those things had over me. people say once you re gay, you re always gay, you can t break free from that. that s not true. chambers even appeared with his wife in ads saying change is possible, but now, he s saying there s no cure for homosexuality and therapy doesn t wipe out homosexual desires. he is still president of exodus and husband and father of two kids and is joining me now. mr. chambers, what happened? what accounts for the change in position? i want to be clear about what those changes are. my life is still as it was when i was on your radio program three years ago, and i still
they have to turn into hardball and other coverage to see the ads if they re going to see them. but in these 12 states you cannot turn on the tv to watch anything on your local stage without facing a deluge of ads by the campaigns and super pacs. it s relentless for people in the targeted states. and a great image, the number one markets so far for political advertisements in those 12 swing zats. it s places like richard, denver, cleveland, tampa and others. they re even spending in boston so they can reach new hampshire voters. when you re spending in boston not to reach massachusetts, but to reach new hampshire, that tells you something. well, you get you know, i am a nerd enough to know the media markets in that state. the boston market reaches into lots of southern new hampshire. the story in the poll she wrote about is fascinating. what it does is prove what most
that s pure fix material. could it also be i agree with what susan just said but could it also be the obama campaign has done a better job marshaling its message? is the romney campaign hindered by an inability to make those supportive of romney are saying what they d like to be said. i think that is broadly true. if you look at the spending on ads, barack obama spent about $96 million on ads thus far the vast majority has been spent? states we re talking about. are mitt romney in the general election has spent $23 million on ads. in eight swing states, colorado, nevada, iowa, new hampshire, florida. in those states, super pacs, republican super pacs. americans for prosperity, restore our future, crossroads gps.
they have outspent mitt romney in every single one of those states on ads. it s a remarkable thing. mitt romney spent $2 million. $9 million on ads. you can control your message easier when it s you paying for it than when it s four groups spending money. correct me if i m wrong, but if the campaign decided hey, we need to marshal these forces and bring them in and let s have a meeting of these folks who are that would violate the law, right? absolutely. they can the coordinate. the public buy information. you can call the radio stations so you can get it that way. but you can t get everybody in. remember, in 2008, barack obama essentially said you know what, if you want to support me, give it to me. don t give it to a super pac. don t give it to a liberal group. give it to me. it s why he raised $750 million. it s also, though, why the outside democratic groups are