i don t know if we can say for sure that that is what led to the falling out, but we know that they did compete for this house, as the president said, that he hadn t spoken to jeffrey epstein in 15 years. this was in 2004, 15 years ago. they both participated in this bankruptcy auction in which at stake was this very majestic ocean front six-acre estate. trump said that he would turn it into the second most amazing house after mar-a-lago. jeffrey epstein source told us was interested in actually living there and tried to get the upper hand before the auction by putting in a bid and terms that were considered favorable. but once the bidding got started, donald trump s attorney was extremely aggressive and, you know, matching or one-upping every bid that came in. trump himself was on the phone,
president has been hesitant to say specifically why there was this breach in their relationship, however close it may or may not have been? i don t know that i can answer that. i mean, we know that they you know, they went head-to-head in this auction. we know shortly after that the criminal investigation began into jeffrey epstein. as news of that leaked out, he obviously became sort of a toxic figure. he and trump were not spotted socializing together after that auction in 2004. beth, it s a great story. people can read it in the washington post. thank you so much. and ahead in the next hour, one of the men on stage last night, colorado senator michael bennet will join my colleague, andrea mitchell. i think it s here. (mom vo) especially at this age. (big sister) where are we going? (mom vo) it s a big, beautiful world out there. (little sister) woah. (big sister) wow. see that? (mom vo) sometimes you just need a little help seeing it. (avo) the three-row subaru ascent.
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i did have a fallout a long time ago. the reason doesn t make any difference, frankly, but i haven t spoken to him in probably 15 years or more. i wasn t a big fan of jeffrey epstein. that i can tell you. he was very well known in palm beach. his island, whatever his island was, wherever it is, i was never there. find out the people that went to the island. but jeffrey epstein was not somebody that i respected. i threw him out. the president there declining to say what led to their falling out, but the washington post reports a competition to buy a prime ocean front palm beach mansion with a view of the atlantic ultimately led to the parting of the ways. so good to see you. walk us through, in what way, how did that mansion lead to these two guys who seemed to be pretty chummy, having this falling out?
lunch, dinner. it s part of a renovation, kind of a coney island from new york style area of detroit. there he is meeting with all the folks and he s with the mayor, by the way, of detroit who has endorsed him. we re going to keep our eye on that. in the meantime, there s been some new and disturbing reporting on accused sex trafficking jeffrey epstein. he believed he could improve the population of the world by seeding with his dna and that he court famous and highly esteemed scientists into his circle, although there s no evidence anything ever came of it. and then there s the washington post with one answer to the question president trump wouldn t answer himself. what happened between him and epstein? they were once wealthy neighbors in palm beach, florida da. here you see him partying at the president s mar-a-lago club.