right now talks between high ranking ukrainian and russian officials are under way. this is close to the border between ukraine and belarus. ukraine has demanded ahead of the meeting an immediate cease-fire and complete withdrawal of russian troops from this country. meantime russian forces facing fierce and stiffer-than-expected resistance across the country. i want to show you video just into cnn this morning. this shows a convoy of russian military vehicles leaving the battle zone towards kharkiv heading back to military camps on the russian side of the border. also this morning, ukraine announcing it will create an international legion for foreign volunteers to join the fight against russia. joining us to discuss, retired army lieutenant general mark hertling, the former commanding general for europe and the seventh army. also olga, a freelance
treat injured people. there s a massive effort, human tear effort to provide support for the idps, internally displaced people who are fleeing. i could safely say that ukraine is united in this resistance and is ready for a long battle. ukraine will prevail ultimately. i m sure. general, we hear olga talk there, and we ve seen so much and heard from other ukrainians about their determination and their pride in their country, how important their independence is. when you look at that juxtaposed with, as you were laying out, the resident soldiers aren t even fighting ukrainian military until they re faced with them. how much more of what we re seeing including this line of broken down military gear on the way in still on the russian side, how much is that demasking, if you will, the russian military and perhaps what a lot of folks thought they may know about just how well
population of ukraine. it doesn t appear that the russians are even attempting to fight soldiers until the ukrainian soldiers fight them. they seem to be under a terror campaign of trying to make the population of ukraine and the various large cities frightened, psychological warfare by using these munitions and rolling through their towns. the use of tanks and armored carriers in my view, erica, is ridiculous. it just shows the incompetence, first of all, of the russian army and the fact that they re not doing the things that most nations abide to in the law of land warfare. olga, good to have you on. earlier you wrote in the washington post i know my generation will prevail again, i know putin s plans are doomed to fail. millions of ukrainians stand united ready to resist. those are prescient comments
applying attacks against humanity in this beautiful country just pains me. it s unfortunate because, as ms. tok ariuk just said, they re leaning for ward as opposed to going backwards as mr. putin is attempting to take russia. olga, is there a path out of this short of an endless war? well, i just want to compliment general hertling. i read on twitter he was stressing exactly that, that the ukrainian army has the spirit and ukrainian society in general has what russia lax, motivation and they know what they re doing. they re defending their land. thank you, general, for this support. it s important for us to see people who understand ukraine as well and are really making this message heard all over the world. in terms of how this would end, i see that the pressure on
you can live in safety. at this stage shows us that this is not so simple and that we must do even more. in the wake of the attack many questions remain not least what could have been done to prevent it from happening. now the nobel prize for literature has been awarded to to all this from austria and olga talk from poland. no novels include flights from 2007 and she has been named the went up for last year in an announcement that was delayed until now that today was due to a sexual assault scandal at the royal swedish academy which confers awards meanwhile $29.00 teams prize has gone to paper well known as a novelist playwright and translator. i m joined now by our in-house. culture department good to have you here current so how much of