that s important. we all have opinions about everything. can you base what you find at the end of the day on what you hear in the courtroom, the facts, the circumstances, the evidence, and nothing else? if you can, it s not a jury for you. if you can, you re impaneled. i m confident with 1,000 members called you ll be able to cull out those who legitimately and properly can serve in judgment on the case. this is a system of justice we use in this country and we worked it and, you know, sometimes it works more effectively than others. but i think they will get there. it may take some time. s there understandably a lot of focus on what will and will not be brought in as evidence in this case. i want to focus on the license plate specifically on this truck. so the defense has asked the judge to keep the prosecution from using a photograph of that license plate which has images of a confederate flag on it, the old georgia flag. the judge hasn t ruled on that. how do you think he ll decide
old georgia flag featuring the flag around the statue of james merrick. is it really a time to celebrate heritage when we have other things happening and other people see that flag as something very, very different? well, milissa, the sons of confederate veterans is not a racial organization at all. we allow members from any racial background to be a member of the sons of confederate veterans and we have members that reflect the entire racial makeup of the south prior to 1865. we have not only white members, we have black members, hispanic members and even jewish members who were very much involved in the war effort here in the south. and i find it ironic that southerners are being told we can t celebrate our own heritage and yet we re right here in the middle of february when other people who are attacking that right are celebrating their own. it s just a little bit hypocritical. i m sorry we have to leave it there, ray and charles, thank you. thank you.
cotton and this type of thing. and it s about making money, as well as for cheap labor or no wages at all. so the point being is that we cannot sit around idly and tolerate this type of behavior. if we allow this, the next thing we know, we ll be back in the cotton fields, back on the farm, back on the plantation. we are not going to go back one iota in terms of the imagery of what we have accomplished. ray, what do you think about what charles just said about your comparison to the confederate flag controversy and black history month? well, charles and i have been in several of these meetings over the last few days. and charles and i have gotten to know each other well enough that he knows full well that neither i nor the folks that are a member of my organization that are wanting to put anyone back in the cotton field. most of the folks in our organization are just like other southerners. we re just good christian folks and we just believe that we have
so what would deliver the democrats the house is something that we can t really foresee at this point because history suggests they don t have much of a shot to beat the republicans in the race for the house this year. kyle kondik, thank you for being here today. thank you. heritage or hate? it is a question that has surrounded the confederate flag for many years now. now the debate is being reignited. georgia s department of motor vehicles is releasing a new specialty license plate featuring the flag. it also features a logo of the sons of confederate veterans which includes a smaller version of the stars and bars. the president and ceo of the southern conservative leadership conference joins us. ray, you must have known this would create a firestorm. so why even do it? well, the simple fact is that all people have a right to celebrate their history and their heritage. we as an organization believe that southerners have just as
a right to celebrate our own history and heritage. the new license plate is available not just to members of the sons of confederate veterans but to anyone in georgia. but it s voluntary. so no one has to take the plate. but if they choose to, they can pay the extra money involved and have the license plate and celebrate their own history and their heritage. other states have tried this already. other states have taken different positions on these types of plates. according to time magazine, nine states offer a license plate with a version of the flag. proposed plates in florida, kentucky and texas have rejected it as controversial. do these plates really represent heritage? absolutely. the confederate flag is the most well-known symbol of southern heritage around the world. by the way, it s also a symbol of freedom from tyranny in countries all around the world, including places like the sudan where black christians fly the