is at closing? gold is up more than $25 and that of course when people get scared they go to something they think they can retain vile unite through any type of situation and gold is one. it is interesting to watch oil pull back as much as it has. we were looking in the mid 80s going toward 90 and now well below 80. that is a fear that the world won t grow and it won t get better from here. and the global growth concerns is part of that spreading. to bring back the point dylan made earlier people have to have a clear sense of some of the fears, a lot of people will say they saw this coming because people like to say that after the fact. the bottom line is when you have a situation in greece, the u.s. took consumer debt and made it government debt. in greece they have a lifestyle mandated that is above the means of their ability to grow. they can t grow themselves out of this problem. other countries having to pay for it who might not want to means it could spread and spread.