the payments can be stretched out. but it s not cancelation as far as i could tell, and that might be an important point, neil enough to cover certain percentage of the loans, maybe the payments the federal government gave out $400 billion in loans and expects it to be paid back. that s a decision of congress. congress has passed statutes that has made it easier to pay back loans. that s not to the point of cancellation. that is still congress decision, especially when so much money is at stake. neil: i go back and raising this with shannon bream, this idea of comparing the ppp program, the paycheck protection program that came about because of covid. it s shutting the world down and all commerce down and all businesses down that could have gone out of business had it not been for a means, a federal means by which to keep them going. to keep their workers employed.
you ve got to embrace the media even though you can bash them, but you have to play that game and get that free media and trump is really good at that. neil: i go back, i m so old. i remember ronald reagan. he interviewed with everybody. if it was highlights for children, he would interview with them. he didn t avoid anyone. really helped as he made that march. first to 1976 to challenge gerald ford for the republican nomination and then later on building up to his 1980 run. so you have to talk to everyone. and you be too careful. you have to be aggressive. neil: you re right. thanks, bob. meantime, have you been following what china has been doing? we come here in peace to score peace in ukraine. the administration in the tough position is saying, all right, we wish them well. do we? i m christine mahon. i m retired from public health nursing and from the army reserve. my retirement funds allow me to