them obama is slightly ahead. so he is very close to taking this thing. he only needs if he can keep, ohio, in miss column it would be there is pretty much no way romney can get there. i know karl has some sets of states that would make up for ohio but ohio now ohio and i think virginia become very critical. chris: bill there is a lot of talk and you heard it especially this week among pollsters when you drill down into the numbers less than 5%, some people say 3% of voters who are truly undecided. truly up for grabs and the argue goes that they are are not going to end up being that important and swing voters less important and this more of a base election more of you getting your supporters out than the other side gets of their supporters out. do you buy that? not really. i think people overdo that. you can say i m inclined to be for are obama or romney and change your mind. that is why the ryan pick is important.
them obama is slightly ahead. so he is very close to taking this thing. he only needs if he can keep, ohio, in miss column it would be there is pretty much no way romney can get there. i know karl has some sets of states that would make up for ohio but ohio now ohio and i think virginia become very critical. chris: bill there is a lot of talk and you heard it especially this week among pollsters when you drill down into the numbers less than 5%, some people say 3% of voters who are truly undecided. truly up for grabs and the argue goes that they are are not going to end up being that important and swing voters less important and this more of a base election more of you getting your supporters out than the other side gets of their supporters out. do you buy that? not really. i think people overdo that. you can say i m inclined to be for are obama or romney and change your mind. that is why the ryan pick is important.