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it s a fascinating exercise they parade the candidates across the stage two minutes or three minutes? they say, okay you are dismissed. it really was, though, few watched it for the several hours it was on, if you are interested if substance, there was a lot there. but we were talking about the fact that donald trump was the one candidate fought there and how a lot of these speeches are canned answers, they re trump speeches. they re things you heard before. if you follow politics donald trump doesn t do any of that. it showed me how different 31st night will be with donald trump. what was your question last night? i think willie is right. while donald trump was not there physically, he was there in spirit. he was acknowledged not directly, but acknowledged indirectly by almost every candidate on the stage who had to take a tough, tough stance on immigration, who also interestingly enough talked about their working class, middle class background in a way that donald trump can t.
all right. joining us former treasury official steve ratner and former governor of vermont and chairman of the democratic national committee howard dean. let s go to howard dean first. you said before you were actually starting to see world nomination for donald trump. i never thought i d say this. as of our discussion last friday on the show when you see, sure the national polls, that doesn t interest me much. but the florida polls where he s up against two politicians that are popular among republican voters and have 100% name recognition, he has a ten-point lead. if, the big if can he do the organization? it s been a lot of speculating. we don t know. you won t know until iowa. i decide barak obama could, fact, be president of the united states, he won iowa with twice as many voters. trump will have to do something like that. if he does this is the middle
on the stage has been controversial from the very beginning. it certainly looks like you made the pre-season s top ten world trade center new polls da came out this morning. it looks like you will be there. what are you thinking this morning? well at least i look forward to being there thursday night. good morning. i look forward to being there thursday night talking about the specific plans that we put forward for the country and it should be an interesting evening. we have been talking about how it s hard to break through 47 candidates, republican candidates, you now have that you have to break through, also the donald trump phenomenon where he is blowing everybody away with the polls. do you talk about trump, confront of the trump or ignore him and focus on something different in. listen i think with ten candidates in this debate thursday night shows the right thing to do is to talk about your ideas and what you want to put forward as a plan for america s future and those are
everybody has been sitting around the table scratching their heads, trying to figure out donald trump, why he is doing as well as he is why, governor? you know politics. i mean what is your gut on it? what why is he doing this well? listen i think this is a phenomenon we seen often in primary politics folks will do well for a period of time maybe not so well afterwards you don t know. you can t predict the way it will work. donald is a friend of mine. i ve known him over 13 years. you know he s someone who is articulate and has a good way at times of presenting himself. we ll see how it goes it s august. we ll take a deep breath. there is a lot of work between now and when everyone votes, iowans vote and new hampshire citizens vote as well. so what itself the strategy with the debate? the sort of packed question you will get anywhere what will you do to break through in. that was my question, okay. i have to say, beyond donald