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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170925:04:57:00

it s much easier to not give a [ bleep ]. i m going to tell you this right now. i know you. and i can see the water in your eyes even when you re smiling, and i know how much pain and how much anguish you re going through right now. i don t want to see your whole life gone. if you get 20, 25, whatever, i m going to call that a blessing. if you get lucky like that, then you need to walk this walk, and walk straight out that door and not come back like this. over and over again. i don t want to get caught up in that neither. and that s not my plan. it never has been my plan. you know what i mean? yeah, we all get discouraged and we all do things. we re human. man, we get discouraged. but we got to pull ourselves out of it. like you re saying, keep our eyes on that tunnel, on that light. as far as the escape stuff, maybe that s just not what i was meant to do.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170925:04:27:00

maxwell has come to see prison as a long tunnel and says he prays that someday brandon will reach the other end. he s got to put one foot in front of the other. he s got to just keep on going. and to the end of that tunnel. and not make it worse. because it s too easy to do. and if he gets caught up in trying to live a prison life, then he s going to be subject to all the stuff that happens when you do that. happened to me. i wouldn t know what i m talking about if it didn t happen to me. coming up i m here right now for traffic city warrants. i haven t paid any of them. kept forgetting. like $19,000 worth or something like that. tulsa county plays host to another member of the maxwell clan. you too, unnecessary er visits. and hey, unmanaged depression, don t get too comfortable. we re talking to you, cost inefficiencies,

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170925:04:56:00

photo album and i had photos of you and echo, and i flipped through there, and flipped through there, and as you got older, and you got older, and it was almost teenagers. i just realized that how much i d let you down. and i mean, i spent all this time in here, trying to be look out for other people and look out for mine, and look out for, you know, fit in here, and penitentiary, penitentiary, penitentiary. you know. and it was you know, i realized that it was you guys that needed me the most. and i let you down. and you know, man, i m a dumbass. and i ve learned through the years, and the years that we wasted apart that there is a light, no matter how dim it may seem. it s hard to stay in the tunnel and watch for that light and go for that light.

Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20170925:04:55:00

it s good to see you, son. it s going to be all right. you know that, right? yeah. it is, i promise you. jimmy and his 19-year-old son brandon have not seen each other in three years. while jimmy says his legendary status as one of oklahoma s most feared inmates served him well in prison, it s cost him the ability to properly guide his son. but only now, with brandon facing prison himself, can jimmy offer some advice. no matter how it goes you re going to have time to do. i know. don t let this define you. don t let prison define you. there is people that are just if there is any light at the end ofhe tunnel, it s so, soso small that they just make prison r world and their home. i did that. you get caught in to living in penitentiary. this is my home. this is where i live. when you stop caring. one day i was looking through my

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