attention to what s going on. so, you know, people were happy with his speech, but then he stepped all over that, and this is what we re going to remember, is this is this interview. mimi rocah, to back up a bit, what do you think he was talking about with robert mueller and submitting the letter what was that about? as usual, he s got this word salad and it s hard to try to get inside his head, but i think he was talking about after mueller gave his press conference there was this sort of joint letter that went out between the department of justice and the special counsel s office saying, oh, no, we don t really disagree on whether or not there would have been a finding that trump committed obstruction if it weren t for the olc policy, which was, frankly, kind of ludicrous because there really was there is a gulf. there is a gulf between barr saying no obstruction and mueller saying, well, i can t say there is obstruction but i can t say there s not obstruction, so i don t k
salad and it s hard to try to get inside his head, but i think he was talking about after mueller gave his press conference there was this sort of joint letter that went out between the department of justice and the special counsel s office saying, oh, no, we don t really disagree on whether or not there would have been a finding that trump committed obstruction if it weren t for the olc policy, which was, frankly, kind of ludicrous because there really was there is a gulf. there is a gulf between barr saying no obstruction and mueller saying, well, i can t say there is obstruction but i can t say there s not obstruction, so i don t know why they put that out, but i think that s what trump is talking about, and clearly seems to me someone told him, oh, look, see, mueller had to correct himself. but that is really what happened is mueller got up and spoke, he was very clear. it wasn t as sort of, you know, it wasn t follow of hyperbole. it wasn t as exciting as people want it to be,
but that should not be a case for saying that mike pence is a terrible person. exactly. even if he is being indecent to other people. tucker: there are a lot of opinions that i think are indecent that are a policy of the democratic party. can i name a lot of them beginning with abortion. i feel that as strongly as any lbgt activist feels about his set of issues. i also believe and i think i am required to believe that people who disagree with me can be really good people. they just reach a different set of conclusions. the democratic base does not believe that. that s a totalitarian belief. it s a threat to the country and recipe for civil war. why doesn t some adult come in and say settle down aoc? other people are still people even if you disagree with them. no one is brave enough to do it. look, i mean i will say that. that i don t think people should be engaged in this but i will say that i think people feel emboldened by their constituencies. aoc is an example of someone
tucker: hold on but that should not be a case for saying that mike pence is a terrible person. exactly. even if he is being indecent to other people. tucker: there are a lot of opinions that i think are indecent that are a policy of the democratic party. i can name a lot of them beginning with abortion. i feel that as strongly as any lbgt activist feels about his set of issues. i also believe and i think i am required to believe that people who disagree with me can be really good people.y they just reach a different set of conclusions. the democratic base does not believe that. that s a totalitarian belief. it s a threat to the country and recipe for civil war. why doesn t some adult come in and say settle down, aoc? other people are still people even if you disagree with them. no one is brave enough to do that. look, i mean, i will say that. i don t think people should be engaged in this but i will say that i think people feel emboldened by their constituencies. aoc is a
joining me now, national security reporter ken dilanian and john mclaughlin, nbc global affairs analyst, happily. ken, tell me about the significance of this. we sell a nuclear power technology all over the world, american technology. right. but there has to be prior approvals because it is sensitive and there are certain states that we fear might try to transform this technology into non-peaceful uses. exactly right. and that s the issue here, that these whistle blowers are telling the house oversight committee about. they re saying, this was a plan that mike flynn tried to jam through the process without getting prior approvals. in the 28 days he was national security adviser? exactly. the testimony is that he came into office saying, i ve already made this decision. and the important thing about that is he was advising the company behind this plan, and lawyers looked at that and said, sir, you have a conflict of interest that could be a criminal conflict of interest. but o