the president of the united states. it s much different, much different than a member of the intelligence community. and the law recognizes that. the office of legal council, which has been around for a number of years the inspector general disagrees and so does the chairman of the house intelligence committee. the chairman of house intelligence also you re breaking your own rule. let her talk. go ahead. here s what we know. the president has lied to the american public, and if he knows that everyone else s hands are tied, yes, there might have been people listening to that conversation, but if they are not free to speak and if they were whistleblowers and their comments are blocked by the justice department and can never see the light of day, he can literally say whatever he wants about that conversation. and what you re asking, jim, is for us to take him at his word and unfortunately he has lost the benefit of the doubt on that front. so, you know, it doesn t matter that
because you won t turn it over. you won t comply with the investigations. you won t give them any of this. what s the obligation to turn it over, chris? everybody just says it s a foregone conclusion that this thing needs to be turned over. that s not a foregone conclusion. this was a conversation with the president of the united states. it s much different, much different than a member of the intelligence community. and the law recognizes that, and the office of legal council which has been around for a number of years the inspector general disagrees with you and so does the house of the intelligence committee. asha, your point. breaking your own rule. let her talk. go ahead. here is what we know. the president has lied to the american public. and if he knows that everyone else s hands are tied, yes, there might have been people listening to that conversation. but if they are not free to speak and if they were whistleblowers and their comment are blocked by the justice depar
council and this person was not there currently that because this was a conversation the president had, it would be protected by executive privilege or simply the statues that govern the way and information is shared from the intelligence committee are too strict the give this information to congress. if that could somehow endanger sources or methods which is always discussed when ever you are sharing any information from the intelligence community. i can assure you the office of legal council will again be in the center of this as people try to find more information and want to know more why they are not getting it. evelin, you know ukraine well, you were in the situation room during meetings on ukraine. what s your take on all that s reported thus far? so stephanie, the real issue is that it appears that president trump asked for dirt on his political poopponent froa foreign government. he s asking foreign interference
welcome back to velshi & ruhle. as president trump fights to stay in office for another four years. he s more personally disliked than any of his recent predecessors. according to a new journal polls, 69% voters say they dislike president trump personally. 49% feel uncomfortable with his 2020 candidacy. that s not necessarily good news for democratic opponents. voters support the policy goals that democrats are discussing. the polls show some issues are less popular including student loan debt forgiveness and medicare for all and undocumented immigrants. jean cummings, is joining us. stephanie and i were asking this question, what s more powerful? do you like the candidate or their policies?
or not there was a quick pro quo. we know the u.s. was holding $250 million funding temporarily from ukraine. the question is was that discussed on the call and that would be the heart of any impeachment inquiry. it was the office of legal council that gave that advice. if that sounds familiar, ali, that s because it is the same quadrant and the same council at the justice department that is said that you can t indict a sitting president when we were looking at the mueller report. it is the office of legal council used to be a little known. about why they may have made that decision. for a lot of people we think we should see the whistle blower complaint. there is such a protocol when it comes to intelligence committee and what information they could share that it may have been decided by the office of legal