details, there s new nuance, there s points that they re stressing in different ways. here s what we know about the trump argument and this comes from one of donald trump s lawyers who went on fox tv last night and explained why this is much ado about nothing. let s listen to that. i have been down there. i m down there frequently. i have never seen that. i have never, ever seen that. that is not the way his office looks. anybody that knows president trump s office, he has guests frequently there. it is it s just a joke. they literally must have gone in and taken out documents they wanted or cover letters as it is and put it about so the public believes this is top secret documents that were on his floor. it s ridiculous. he has guests frequently there. we know that he had three of the classified documents in his desk drawer. what d you think about that argument? the point she makes is half right. she is correct to note and the fbi and doj have not made any bones about this
which is an independentjudicial officer to do that sorting instead. to ask a judge to appoint. so perhaps not an usual move. also, donald trump s legal team question this picture the fbi took when they seized the documents from his home. in a post on his truth social platform, he said. trump s lawyer repeated this on fox news. i m somebody that has been in his office, i ve seen it l this is not the way his office looks. - they give you this appearance that you walk in and there s these - top secret documents just strewn about. - i have never, ever seen that, that is not the way his officel looks, anybody that knows president trump s office, i
saying, simply put, the notion presidential records would contain sensitive information should never have been cause for alarm. trump s team also taking issue with the photo showing a traunch of documents with markings. they give you this appearance that you walk in and there s the these top secret documents strewn about. reporter: inadvertently highlighting the security risk. that is not how his office looks. president trump has guests frequently there. now, the judge also said she is considering making public a more detailed list of what was seized at mar-a-lago. of course that is not set in stone. we are waiting for this judge to issue any of her rulings in writing. pam? sara murray, stand by. let s bring in elliott williams and john dean, the former nixon white house counsel. elliott, first to you. how do you think this judge will weigh these arguments for or
justice department. and i think that bears underlining here. and look, what you see from the former president is classic. right? he accuses people of things that he and his team have been doing. he s saying the justice department is going to leak. well, they had about roughly 72 hours after the search to themselves. they had the field. they sort of set the narrative telling reporters on background things that made its way into the press, and now it s forced the justice department to respond in two bombshell filings that have provided a lot more information frankly that we would have if it weren t for the fact that the former president has been making these allegations. i also want to note one of trump s lawyers last night went on a favorable network where they know they won t be treated with tough questions. this is not the way his office looks, she s making the point about that. anybody knows president trump s office he he has guests frequently. that s undermining your own argumen
country relies on for its national security and so therefore, it underscores not only how careless donald trump has been and how irresponsible he s been, but how malignant his presidency has been and his access to this information would have been in terms of him having access to this information. tom, a lot of what we know about the plausiblity with director brennan, we know from trump s own team. here s his lawyer talking about how accessible the ex-president s office is. i do have first-hand knowledge, as you know. i have been down there. i m down there frequently. i have never seen that. i have never, ever seen that. that is not the way his office looks. he has guests frequently there. people in and out all of the time! the qanon lady from congress posted a picture of herself in the office and the government