Flexibility in the secretary of treasury to decide where the money goes. you don t know which government programs will be defunded. something we want to avoid. it is why there is a responsible way of handling this. if on the other hand if we pass a so-called clean debt ceiling bill one without any spending limitations as president biden is demanding, what that does is also horrible because what that does is perpetuate this massive biden inflation that has been harm americans. people in utah shelling out an addition a $1 thousand a month every family every month because of the biden inflation. this will get much worse if we increase the debt ceiling without constraints. harris: he was president of the senate as the president. that s his job for eight years. you think that he could get together with chuck schumer and work something out to get this to go to the floor. he is the one with 50 years in office experience. it is amazing and disappointing that the president of the united