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And not simplecism i think it would have been the same result and thats why i believe its a legally correct conclusion. Final question, darren. How important if at all was the testimony there of one of the victims of the robbery victim testimony at parole hearings can be very impactful far more impactful frankly than family members of the defendant who are fairly predictable in their support, but when a victim indicates they have been made whole, can carry a lot of waist to the trial this was a rogues gallery so that can factor into it as well when the board is deciding what weight to give it, but in general victim testimony, very powerful. Darren, thank you very much darren kavinoky, criminal defense attorney and lets bring in bill and kelly to talk more about this ruling in the o. J. Simpson case. Truly a a throwback thursday, hu oh, man, is it. Taking us all back to the 80s here. I dont know about you guys, but it seemed to me listening to each of the parole commissioners that while

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