terrorism. this legislation goes too far. all of my colleagues understand the need for oversight and we work very well within the systems we have today. but what s happened here is they ve pushed this to an extreme that is not even logical anymore. it is irresponsible. bill: they adapt and look at your information and they respond accordingly. wall street journal writes this. the recent attacks in britain show the jihadist threat to open society has not abated and democracies need to defend themselves without offering terrorists a roadmap to thwart them. that s what you are saying. those who support this believe that it would help engender greater trust among those in the public because you could see what your authorities are doing. what do you think of that argument? i think it s a false narrative. i think what they re doing is utilizing a very difficult time in police/community relationships to push their agenda forward. bill: what is their agenda? i mean, there seems to be