what does he mean? well, i think i know what he means. he s saying we re trying to get ready. but i wish we were doing some more things than what we are doing to be frank. i firmly believe that if you want to prevent war, then make sure you are fully prepared for it. what am i talking about? we have the number 1 cyber offensive capability in the world. nobody is close to us. we should be attacking north korea s information systems, command and control, their finance systems and energy infrastructure. we should be taking that country down electronically. second, we should put in place a naval blockade of north korea to cut off the back door that we know exists where he s getting fuel and other supplies. the third thing is, we should start to bring our forces in to the theater. if we re saying we re going to go to war to prevent him from having a nuclearized icbm, we have to show him some of the
this to weapon nice it into something that will fit on a missile. they are not as capable of doing that. but this maniac regime has gone too far. no wonder the un security council is so adamantly opposed. arthel: so what should the u.s. and its allies do about this? this is not new to south korea. it is more vigilant and what our allies need to do is stick behind the un security council about harder sanctions on north korea. we had to drive them to the negotiating table. the anthrax issue reminds us we cannot let kim jong-un develop at a more offensive capability more sophisticated weapons. what he is doing is unprecedented and attends us in north america, canada, europe,
u.s. launched a couple of them off to show their capabilities and it is quite dramatic. the ability to penetrate through rock. they are a very strong, offensive capability. so, the u.s. military and conjunction with its allies in the area is really always ready. locked and loaded for any kind of a north korean threat, hallie. courtney live for us at the pentagon. thank you very much. with me, chad sweep and chief of staff from the department of ohomeland security under george w. bush and my panel for the next hour, senior white house correspondent for bloomberg news margaret and nick johnston. guys, thank you for being here. chad, i ll start with you. giving us sort of the broad picture before you drill down and what s happening at b bedminister with nikki haley. we have been talking about this for four or five days now. what is different today that we didn t see earlier this week? a couple things. number one, if you look at the kore
and that leaves only then the offensive capability or the deterrent. i would just suggest to you that shannon, there is a moment in the life of nearly every problem like this when it is big enough for reasonable people to see and still small enough to be addressed without catastrophe. and bill clinton missed that moment when he made a deal with the koreans that didn t last very long. he paid the ran some. didn t secure the hostage. barack obama did essentially the same thing. gave them a quarter million tons of food. clinton gave them a half million tons of fuel a year. in both cases the north koreans disregarded the deal immediately and we now face a situation where a rogue country like this could potentially target the united states with nuclear weapons. and then the obama administration makes a deal with iran that is essentially the same kind of deal that puts iran on a legal trajectory to
and that s something you hear in this building because there s an ability to retaliate. a lot of the talk about cyber is on the deterrent side. frankly, this sort of shrugging on the shoulders of what do you do if someone attacks back. a lot of the infrastructure, a federal system, it isn t as secure as a lot of folks here would like it to be. evan, you were in the cia. what do you do? i think it s about mostly sanctions. what hans said about cyber attacks is true. i think we need a robust offensive capability. we do. but our defenses are fairly behind. but i will say that we absolutely must deter foreign actors from attacking our democracy. our ability to choose our own leaders. you can t just defend against it really. that s a long term problem. there s got to be deterrents and