president of the council on foreign relations, richard haass. columnist and associate editor for the washington post, david ignatius, and joining the conversation, dean of the school of international studies at the university of denver, former u.s. ambassador to south korea and former assis secretary of state for east asia, christopher hill. former undersecretary of state for political affairs and former special adviser to president clinton and policy coordinator on north korea, wen n is witus. and former u.s. ambassador to nato, former state department spokesman, nicholas burns, professor of diplomacy and international relations at the harvard kennedy school of government. great group we have to look at just what happened over the past 24 hours, joe. and david ignatius i know off question for ambassador burns but i want to ask you top of the hour what your feeling is about
immigration deal? yeah, joe, and mika, yes, it is. first, let me say this, we can absolutely pass a bipartisan bicameral daca deal with border security. there will be some kind of a pathway to citizenship for these young people. there s no question about this. this is within reach. the real challenge for us on this daca issue is going to be the house. once the senate passes a bill and i believe they will the house is going to have to take up that bill. right now the house energy is spent trying to pass a republican-only daca bill which is a fantasy. it has no chance of passing the senate and near zero chance of passing the house so we have to get serious and when the bill comes over from the senate, we need to take it up, whether we have a majority or not to vote for it, we have to take it up and do what needs to be done and send it to the president. so obviously there is the formerly called hastert rule, i m not sure what it s called now, that you don t put anything on the flo
but you know having served in the house that if the speaker wants to put the clamps on something, he can. donald trump can. look, the steven boyd memo is very important. this is the justice department officially saying this. he s the assistant attorney general but he only sends that memo if it s cleared by the attorney general himself and run by the white house chief of staff and counsel. that s a major statement by the administration that it would be what did he say? extraordinarily reckless? where s trump? trump has tweeted that it should come out. sarah huckabee sanders implied they wanted it to come out. will trump back up his own justice department against releasing something that they say it would be reckless to release or is he going to pander to people who is trump going to be a serious president or is he going to be a demagogue on this issue? demagogue. good question. the president s inability yesterday, he didn t want him to find collusion, he wanted to talk about
strain of thought on what s going on. and it is this that a lot of what we read, a lot of what we end up talking about on cable tv, about these daily headlines, these daily stories, it seems every day we get two or three different eye-popping stories out of washington. there s an element of distraction to all of them. because at the root of this is an astounding fact, according to these intel people, and the former fbi people. and it is this that at the root of this, is russia s role in manipulating an election in the united states of america. russia. not our friend, not our ally, russia. still here, still actively pursuing disruption in our political system. and politicians from the president on down, say nothing about it each and every day. the answer to your question is of course, of course the reason he goes after the intel agencies and the media is to soften the ground for whatever is coming. he suspects something is coming and he does not want you to
no. i hate to say it, i don t take any satisfaction in saying that but clearly everybody has experienced him over the last year, two years, says one thing one day, it s the complete opposite the next day. until something is inked and signed, off question. talk about the degree in negotiating, dealing with the art of the deal when you don t believe the guy on the other side of the table. trust is everything. you re going to have charlie dent here who is a noble republican who i disagree with and when charlie dent gives you his word, take it to the bank. you can t function as a democracy without some level of trust. i can go on morning joe and they can go on fox news and people can beat each other up but at the end of the day your word has to mean something and that is 40-year track of him not keeping his word to labor union folks in atlantic city he never paid, small business people he never paid, those people he discriminated against over the