i am spying on the foreigner with you. seems like it s almost like you turn the foreigner into an unknowing wing man. like your free pass to go pick up the other person. is that being used in a way as a loophole to maybe monitor other u.s. citizens? i am told yes. one of the sources yesterday spent about 8 minutes explaining how that works. i m not going to take your time because i wouldn t do it right but it s basically a gray area. it s a roundabout way, and the concern really when it comes to crime potentially, again, we have to look into this a lot more is the leaking and who did that. obviously the way the names were redacted and the number is much more than they ve ever seen in something like this, that s where the concern came in because for them, in their opinion, it was unprecedented. kimberly: what do you expect to uncover, next steps? where is this going in terms of the investigation?
i know a lot of people horsing let s hold off and wait and see what happens. susan rice, we played a sound bite of her saying i know nothing about this. surprised to see reports from chairman nunes on this. we know now she was the one who, on multiple occasions, demanded to know who these people were. unmask these redacted names of u.s. citizen one, two, three. then she got the information and for her to say a week and a half ago or two weeks ago to say, i know i have no knowledge of this. it tells me the smoke is going to lead to her fire. once she had those names, the felony is what happened next. how did the public at those names? that s what we have to find out. dana: all right. you go ahead. bob: answer eric s question
dana: update on the incidental collection controversy. sources have told fox news it was president obama s former national security advisor susan rice who requested to unmask the names of trump transition officials from intelligence reports. a week and a half ago, rice denied knowledge of the unmasking. i know nothing about this. i was surprised to see reports from chairman nunes on that count today. i really don t know to what chairman nunes was referring but he said whatever he was referring to was a legal, lawful surveillance and that it was potentially incidental collection. dana: the trump white house will not confirm or deny the rice allegation. i will say we have continued to say that i think there is a
several of these individuals could be subjected to some kind of criminal prosecution or liability. we are obviously following every lead we can barely get a lot of tips on the stuff now as we continue to get into it. we have to wade through those in figure out which ones to follow and which ones don t make any sense. this can go a lot of different ways. it s concerning for a lot of americans. the individuals we spoke to are concerned about, they don t want their methods getting out. they want to make sure it s clear that what the community does does come in their opinion come help the u.s. and security. we are still figuring out all this, how it went. did any of these people leak information? were names leaked? this is where this investigation needs to go. others are getting involved as we get more information. eric: my mind is bwn. i am telling you, adam, this is the smoking gun.
question. go ahead, bob. the leaks is where it s going to lead to. bob: i will be quick. did susan rice do anything illegal? that s a gray area. i m not a lawyer and i can t delve into that. i am going on what we are finding and what they tell us. the way the names were unmasked was unprecedented to them. legality is not my specialty. bob: if they are unmasked, you are caught up in something that potentially is illegal. is there any indication at all that any of these trump people that were unmasked had done anything illegal? it wasn t the russian investigation. it was investigating people were not involved in that at all. where is the damage here? eric: can i jump in? the damages when you unmasked then you leak the name. that s a felony, punishable by