race did not play a role. so nobody felt race played a role? i don t think so. none of the jurors? i can t speak for them. i m not their voice. that was not part of the discussion in the jury room? no. no. we never had that discussion. it didn t come up, the question of did george zimmerman profile trayvon martin because he was african-american? no. i think he just profiled him because he was the neighborhood watch and he profiled anybody that came in acting strange. i think it was just circumstances happened that he saw trayvon at that exact time that he thought he was suspicious. the prosecution tried to paint george zimmerman as a wanna be cop, over eager. did you buy that? i think he s over eager to help people. like the lady who got broken in and robbed while her baby and her were upstairs. he came over and he offered her a lock for her sliding glass door. he offered her his phone number, his wife s phone number. he told her that he that she
situation they were trayvon was, i think george would have reacted the exact same way. why do you think george zimmerman found trayvon martin suspicious then? because he was cutting through the back, it was raining. he said he was looking in houses as he was walking down the road. kind of just not having a purpose to where he was going. he was stopping and starting. but, i mean, that s george s rendition of it. but i think the situation where trayvon got into him being late at night, dark at night, raining, and anybody would think anybody walking down the road stopping, turning, looking, if that s exactly what happened, is suspicious, and george had said that he didn t recognize who he was. well, was that a common belief on the jury, that race was not that race did not play a role in this? i think all of us thought
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believe that trayvon martin reached for george zimmerman s gun? i think he might have. i think that george probably thought that he did because george was the one who knew that george was carrying a gun and he was aware of that. you can t say for sure whether or not trayvon martin knew that george zimmerman was carrying a gun? no. so you can t say whether or not tray vor martin reached for that gun? no. there s not a right or a wrong. even if he did reach for the gun, it doesn t make any difference. how so? well, because george had a right to protect himself at that point. so you believe george zimmerman really felt like his life was in danger? i do. i really do. do you think trayvon martin threw the first punch? i think he did. what makes you think that? because of the evidence of on on the t, on the sidewalk where george says he was punched, there was evidence of his flashlight and keys there
do you know why she felt that way? she didn t think it was trayvon, she said it could have been trayvon s. so she wasn t even sure? no. she wanted to give everybody absolute out of being guilty. but you were sure it was george zimmerman s voice. i was sure it was george zimmerman s through the witness. and everybody else? i think so. i think they were. i don t think there was a doubt that everybody else thought it was george s voice. i want to ask you a i want to ask you about some of the different witnesses. rachel jeantel, the woman who was on the phone with trayvon martin at the start of the incident, what did you make of her testimony? i didn t think it was very credible but i felt very sorry for her. she didn t ask to be in this place. she didn t ask she wanted to go. she wanted to leave. she didn t want to be any part of this jury. i think she felt inadequate toward everyone because of her education and her communication