religious affairs correspondent martin we ve been talking to one irish abuse survivor who doesn t believe you just told us that he doesn t believe that pope francis is fully committed to the task of tackling this abuse scandal within the catholic church what s your view is he committed it seems to me that this pope is committed or us committed sort of the head of the church can be in the conditions of in the institutional conditions in which the church exists this is just a it s a mess of operation it s a massive institution in which most of the people that have actually operated a clerical level have been there for like twenty thirty forty years so the problem that the church has is not simply sort of address. they should selfridges addressing the crimes finding redress for the crimes finding a way to stop further crimes finding a way to stop the cover up of those crimes but on top of that there is a question as to how to change institutional culture within the church and that of