i would also say, when a president has a call with a foreign leader, he doesn t know how many people are on the phone on the other end. so any president who thinks that s a secret conversation with the president of mexico, president of australia is fooling themselves. it s breakdown in process, of course, that these things came out. but i don t think any president believes when they have a one-on-one conversation with a foreign leader that s there s no risk that s going to come out from the other side of the conversation. and in this case, look, these transcripts are hugely embarrassing. it s much more about the political embarrassment of the president contradicting his own administration saying whacky things that any kind of revelation of state secrets. and to that point, exactly, ken delaney, according to the author of the washington post story, they went to the white house and the white house did not push back or ask them not to publish. and did not have any problem, apparently,
every hire and fire had to be gone through jared kushner, steve bannon. something john kelly is trying to do, speed up decisions, expedite hiring, if you want something done, we re empowering you to do it. josh dawsey, from politico, thank you for being here. we ll talk more about those washington post transcripts, diving into them with the president of australia and the president of mexico. we ll have much more on this. you won t want to miss it. for your heart. your joints. or your digestion. so why wouldn t you take something for the most important part of you. your brain. with an ingredient originally found in jellyfish, prevagen is now the number one selling brain health supplement in drug stores nationwide.
john phillips. john, read a lot of things, heard a lot of things. someone told me that a friend heard something. zero hour fast approaching. if he has any evidence would now be a good time to bring it up and bring it forward. we do know his conversation with the president of mexico was listened in by someone. we don t know that. absolutely. we know it was leaked. yes, which had to be illegal. could have been a transcript. doesn t mean it was bugged. which is illegal. doesn t mean he was bugged. same thing with the president of australia. same thing with michael flynn. the russian ambassador was being monitored because he is being monitored. fur listening to call you are listening to at least two parties. conversations that michael flynn was on and donald trump were on were listened to by third parties and the contents of those conversations would illegally leaked. but the conversations between the president of mexico and the prime minister of australia, that cou
he controls the levers of power in the united states. if he s going out with steve king and other in congress and saying that the president of the the former president of the united states wiretapped a conversation he had a few weeks ago with the president of australia, i mean we have got a very serious problem here. this man may be in a position where he will start causing true harm to american democracy because he doesn t know the difference between what american democracy is and the crazy things which he s told by people like steve bannon and other parts of the, you know, right world. i think actually that is a very important point to make because you do have a president who is surrounded by sort of an alt state and that is this group of bannonites i don t know what you call them. they want this christian white nationalistic edge noe state and people like stiefel bannon,
think the overrated actor is barack obama, because this guy spent more time playing on the phone than the jerky boys. you go back to that june attempt to get a fisa court approval to spy on donald trump, you go back to that did not come directly from the president. it came from the executive branch, which is ultimately going all the way to the top to the president. and we know that there are private conversations that the president has had with the president of mexico, the president of australia that have been leaked, many including myself believing they were leaked by those loyal to president obama. again, i make a distinction between president obama and what was said in these tweets and saying those loyal to the president, obama holdovers. there have been, yes, a lot of leaks, and they might have something to do with obama holdovers. but i think we should take the