odesa hasn t faced a major attack yet and also to empathize with them and to not let their pain kind of get to you. it does get to you, just everything people here are dealing with. this is a war about one man s kind of greed and also a lot of people who are losing everything. isabel, let your great aunt know that all of us at msnbc and viewers wish her a very happy birthday today and we hope that the next one is not during a war. thank you for your great reporting. isabel is a foreign correspondent for the washington post joining us from odesa. the inhumanities that they ve displayed. new audio reveals russian soldiers openly discussing how to commit those atrocities. later in the show, a new justice
which is why i think to put the gas on, the rhetoric that president biden used more sanctions, maybe, you know, moving ukraine closer to nato because giving them the jets because it does seem like that s the only language putin will understand. actually, i don t think that s the only language putin understands because he has never shown that he understands the language of force. he himself uses force and this sense, i mean, i think also you and i see he s very donald trump is that if you give him, he s going to give you ten times more. i think that, you know, i m not a military analyst in any way but i do think that neutrality is the beginning. although, i don t think putin is going to stop. for example, he takes mariupol and odesa hasn t even come into the conversation yet but it will because odesa was originally the