phenomenal. so president obama will campaign for hillary clinton this afternoon at the university of central florida in orlando. this comes a day after first lady michelle obama campaigned along side hillary clinton in north carolina. the first time appearing together on the campaign trail. if hillary doesn t win this election, that will be on us. it will be because we did not stand with her. it will be because we did not vote for her. so how much can the current occupants of the white house help clinton get to the white house again? we re joined now by vanessa deluca, editor in chief of essence magazine which features the obamas on the cover of its october edition. thank you for joining us. thank you for having me. there are some people who have conventional wisdom, put this together, that this is the obamas versus donald trump. everything they believe they represent, the president has flat-out said his legacy at stake. how detailed were they in talking to essence about