in another jurisdiction. here is part of that exchange. i watch the united states attorney general wise tell a room full of irs senior leaders on october 7th, 2022 that he was not deciding person on whether charges were filed. that was my red line. i had already seen a pattern of prefer preferential treatment. it seems this meeting which you described as a red line is just a misunderstanding. that after the u.s. attorney in d.c. declined to partner on the 14 and 15 charges, mr. wise took a good hard look at those charges himself and ultimately decided not to charge them and therefore not to seek the special counsel. he may have been right about that or may have been wrong as you guys make your case for, but it was his decision. isn t that right, mr. chaply? no, that is not supported by the facts. now weiss has told congress that he was assured that he had full authority to make that charging decision by the toerpg merrick garland about whether,
investigation? now, listen, these are the same lawyers that the irs whistleblowers highlighted that they, in fact, told the investigators that was investigating their client, hunter biden, that if they brought with charges, that that would be career suicide. that is in the irs investigator whistleblowers testimony. these are the same individual, so it shouldn t surprise people that they re trying to discredit whistleblowers, and they re trying to intimidate myself and other members for this investigation. let me tell you, we re going to go where the facts lead, and they may not like that the facts are leading to all the different members of the biden family. maria: well, the facts are also leading to the federal agencies complete wily ignoring all of this completely ignoring all of this or the u.s. attorney in delaware being stopped in his investigation. talk to us about this meeting which took place on october 7th, 2022, with the prosecutor, weiss, in delaware and, you know, the
investigation? now, listen, these are the same lawyers that the irs whistleblowers highlighted that they, in fact, told the investigators that was investigating their client, hunter biden, that if they brought with charges, that that would be career suicide. that is in the irs investigator whistleblowers testimony. these are the same individual, so it shouldn t surprise people that they re trying to discredit whistleblowers, and they re trying to intimidate myself and other members for this investigation. let me tell you, we re going to go where the facts lead, and they may not like that the facts are leading to all the different members of the biden family. maria: well, the facts are also leading to the federal agencies complete wily ignoring all of this completely ignoring all of this or the u.s. attorney in delaware being stopped in his investigation. talk to us about this meeting which took place on october 7th, 2022, with the prosecutor, weiss, in delaware and, you know, the
i would hope that they would voluntarily come because there me becaua los a lot of inn that we need to look into the october 7th 2022 meeting where the whistleblowers outlined that directly. they heard that the u.s.e prosecutorth in this case in delaware said that he could not. bring charges in the district of columbia. he wied noted that he coul bring charges in california. he was denied that h. e was denied. a special prosecutor. yet you have the attorney of the attorney general of the united saying that he has true independence. the facts aren t lining up. that s why we need to hear fromi additional people. thes wasonal in that meeting ano see if all these conversationsgr are coming together. chairman smith, glad on top of it. we really do appreciate it. thanks for joining us on f han now with more reaction, our former us attorney brad tolmanr ac and former acting attorney general matt whitaker. gentlemetin thank you for joini.
from him and whistle-blower number 2 who is the case agent shapely was his supervisor. not only did we hear from them, but they provided key documentation. corroborating their view of what happened in this all important meeting october 7th, 2022 where they learned for the first time wise told them gosh i don t have ultimate authority. so we have statements that are inconsistent between wise and garland and the thing is, congress can get to the bottom of this. the house can get to the bottom of this. without interfering with the current investigation they need to ask questions of merritt garland did you or did you not give wise special counsel authority and did he ever ask for it and did he have to follow normal doj procedure which means you have to go through a lot of hoops. what did it mean when youd to him to follow the process? they can talk about all of