dawood and his 19-year-old suleman and french oceanographer paul-henri nargeolot who previously completed 35 dives on the titanic. we learned about warning signs and concerns over the submersible s experimental design and the development process, not going through the protocols, safety protocols and checks that are standard in the maritime industry for submersibles. in the last hour we spoke to oceangate s co-founder who cautioned people not to rush to judgment. safety was always number one priority for us and for stockton in particular. he was a very strong risk manager and i believe that he believed that every innovation that he created, whether technologically or within the dive operations, was to both expand the capability of humanity exploring the oceans while also improving the safety of those doing it.