graham their identity has to be made public? well, the desperation of some of the republicans is quite extraordinary at this point. it used to be a bipartisan commitment that we protect whistleblowers because we want them to come forward with the truth of the conduct of our elected officials, but we don t have to depend on just this one whistleblower, not only is there another whistleblower about to come forward but everything that the whistleblower said has been corroborated by independent objective evidence including the contemporaneous transcript or memorandum about the phone call that took place on july 25th between president trump and president zelensky. we also have objective, verifiable evidence that the president s withholding of the military assistance at the same time in order to create coercive leverage over this vulnerable ally, resisting russian aggression. everything the whistleblower has said has been objectively borne out by the testimony of other witnesses and more c
she hands out subpoenas like they re cookies. you want a subpoena, here you go, take them. like they re cookies. you know what it is, state of mind, our reoccurring series with tony schwartz, the author of the way we are working isn t working, and co-author of the art of the deal . thank you for coming in. thanks for having me. let s start with your opinion, which some people call your bias. you have been waiting for this, you have been waiting to see donald trump on the run. is he more on the run in this ukraine scandal than any time we ve seen him since he became president? i think the objective evidence is obvious that he is. i think what s really interesting is to observe a level of de falling apart that melting down that is so far beyond what we ve seen in his press conference yesterday
something that isn t plausible. we have seen president trump giving putin the benefit of the doubt. it s shocking. i will say what mr. mccabe is accused of dissemiabling about was a story that was planted in the wall street journal that attacked hillary clinton. if he was a deep state guy trying to get trump, that story hurt hillary s campaign: if you look at the objective evidence, this was a president that said go easy. then he fires the fbi director and he tells nbc news the president does this because of russia. then a few days later, he brings the russian foreign minister and the russian ambassador into the oval office and highly classified information. if i had done that, i would be in gitmo.
something that isn t plausible. we have seen president trump giving putin the benefit of the doubt. it s shocking. i will say what mr. mccabe is accused of dissemiabling about was a story that was planted in the wall street journal that attacked hillary clinton. a hint antihilary story. if he was a deep state guy trying to get trump, that story hurt hillary s campaign: if you look at the objective evidence, this was a president that said go easy. on general flip flynn. then he fires the fbi director and he tells nbc news the president does this because of russia. then a few days later, he brings the russian foreign minister and the russian ambassador into the oval office and highly classified information.
the family, shouldn t follow the money, fill in the blank. but why should he nominate anyone else? he s perfectly comfortable with the person he has and it s been the first time for him since jeff sessions recused himself that he feels he has the person who will protect him. obviously i m saying that as a subjective. but the objective evidence makes it very difficult to lead to any other conclusion. now, one thing is important to note, donald trump does have 210 days under the vacancy act. he does technically have there s a time limit. there is a time limit. but, you know, this is why would he make a change? it s not in his interest. there s also the fact that he said he would consult the ethics department at the doj about whether he should recuse, given everything he said. right. and today the new spokesperson, no comment. he s the acting attorney general of the united states, we should hear something about this, right? step back a little bit. sessions recused himsel