starts, god forbid, turning purple, they don t walk away from that baby. they do surgery on that baby. regardless of the insurance situation, correct? first of all, so, let s be clear. yes, first of all, the mother might have been in a very different hospital than cedars-sinai. so, the quality of the hospital would have been affected. martha: that s true under obamacare or not under obamacare. let me just finish. martha: go ahead. the second thing is, the idea of transporting the baby to children s hospital might have been different. we do know as a matter of fact, actually, that people are treated differently by their insurance. there was a study done by professor doyle out of mit s that looked at accident victims in wisconsin. there was a very big difference in outcome as to whether you had an insurance, you are insured or uninsured, and the uninsured people actually died more frequently. we also have data from the american cancer society martha: let me just jump
vote total is on the button right now. if you look at it, it looks like the dominoes started falling this morning when a pair of republicans who want to their parties obamacare replacement to do more to protect people with pre-existing conditions, sold president trump on an idea that would do that, using $8 billion that was already in the bill. the leaders of that effort were congressman billy long and congressman fred upton, who told me that the president agreed to their terms. he accepted what we were trying to do and knew we were trying to constructively improve the process. at the end of the day, i think that it can bring in enough votes to pass, which which we e likely to see it tomorrow. every time something changes of this bill, if either of those is conservative or moderate to support crates of moderates remain unmoved. they will vote no. one very influential member of the freedom caucus told me his
available to everyone. that is a new place for this country to be. the government is now in the health care business. it looked like they are there to stay. i think that is the real story of this drama. the real story is that over the seven years, obamacare has been largely influential and has had the success, maybe not on the ground at the real world, but the premium problems and all that, but it has changed for zeitgeist. it has changed the underlying assumption in the country that the government should guarantee in the end that everyone forget health care. that did not exist before 2010. i think the idea that some republicans still have, that health care is a commodity like any other, should be allocated by price, it s all a matter of choice, i think that is such a minority position now. that is why you got the revolt
for the moderate conservative republicans in the house. they were getting the message from their constituents that something has changed regarding medical care. you saw it in a reaction to the jimmy kimmel episode. people expect overwhelmingly that in the end, everybody gets the care. now, once that happens, all the calculations have to change. that is why we had 100 days of this infectiousness and arguing among republicans. i think we are at a new place. republicans are coming to terms with the repeal of obamacare idea, the idea that everyone should get health care one way or another. that is not going to happen. martha: hard to take away an entitlement, once you have rolled it out, never, ever happens. they are trying to make the best of it, i guess, from their perspective. they will vote tomorrow. charles, thank you very much. good to see you, sir. my pleasure. martha: just ahead.
debate, which will be foreign policy, and will that any impact? i mean, you re running out of time. the clock s running. i think that it may be the foreign policy debate. i m guessing that as soon as i walk into the voting booths, i ll probably make up my mind then. greta: after the debate, did you move in either direction or were you locked in the same place you were before it started? no, i was locked in the same place before i started. i thought romney made good points about business and his business expertise. i thought the president made a lot of good points about his protection of social security, medicaid, medicare, and obamacare as well. i do think we need a national healthcare program in this country. so for me it s still really 50/50, greta. i wish i could tell you i was leaning one way or the other. greta: i m curious, after next week, after the foreign policy, if you inch in either direction. maybe we ll have you back and see if it s had an impacts. i trust you ll w