and gave the information. they are totally in the drivers seat on all this to make it go away. if they would just do that. yeah, but greta, a couple of things. first on the irs scandal, they don t want to give the answers because the fact of the matter is, is that conservative groupings were rgt people inside the internal revenue service and the american people, regardless of where you are in the political spectrum hate that they know that the power to tax is the power to destroy. if a democratic administration can use the irs for political purposes, a republican administration could. and that would be bad for america for anybody to be using it and on obamacare, look, even if the web site the law is fundamentally flawed, we would still be talking about the fact that you can t keep your plan if you want it. you can t keep your doctor if you want to. that your premiums were not going to drop $2,500, that they are going to go up. because intrinsically the describe of obamacare is to do
interesting were the comments by president obama. is he one skin thinned dude. his attitude is if anybody is critical of me or if anybody pays attention to stories that i don t like. then i m going to be very thin-skinned about it the guy is president of the united states. he ought to rise above it you know, could you imagine if his predecessors, republican if ronald reagan had gone out all the time saying the new york times is being critical of me. it makes him small. this president is so thin skinned he engages in behavior that diminishes his stature and diminishes his prestige rather than makes him the confidential small leader we would like it see in a president regardless of party. see, i don t think they understand there is a way to end all these stories. there is a way to get fox off their back about obamacare is to have made it work. you know, if that web site had worked, we never would have been, you know, full of stories on it. or even like the irs, if they answered the q
will obamacare help anyone at election time. among republicans concern they are betting too much on obamacare for the mid terms. 2016. former secretary of state hillary clinton is hedging her bet. the former presidential candidate defending obamacare but saying she is open to evidence based changes. we are back with karl rove. karl, to what extent is obamacare going to be the strategy of both parties going to into the mid terms? well, i think it s going to be a big part of the republican strategy. democrats are going to try to diminish the damage that s being done to their brand and to their candidates by it but republicans have got to be careful in how they approach it. they have got to, in my opinion, first of all, be very focused on the fact they say to the american people they didn t tell the truth about this law pooch were warning, experts were warning. congressional budget office saying people were going to lose coverage. actuaries at the department of health and human services
and they don t enjoy the fact that they don t have freedom of choice any longer. it s very, very confusing to them. it s he very distressful. they don t know where to turn. they still will call us and ask for help. and, of course, we are willing it do that. all right. now you have also gotten squeezed because of what s happened with your own insurance for your employees. what s happened with them? well, i had a small business plan. and my employees were under my plan as well. so when my plan was cancelled, which was a very complex, very complete plan, but it was cancelled. and the reason given in the letter was that it had to do with not meeting the regulations of the affordable care act. i mean, this completely confused me. and came as a complete surprise. well, you know, i had to then obtain a broker and start looking at other options because the subsequent plan that was offered by the same insurance company turned out to have a network that was so incredibly narrow, so
state hillary clinton hard to have a conversation about healthcare because of all the misinformation. misinformation really or possibly just a bad plan? joining us political panel rick klein. washington examiner byron york and the wall street journal s jason rod. jason first to you. is misinformation, is that part of the problem? [ laughter ] she would like to think that s part of the problem. maybe the misinformation that harry reid is putting out there is part of the problem that she is talking about. i think that clinton s comments are more confirmation of what we already knew, which is that democrats think healthcare and obama care is going to be a liability in november. in clinton s case might think it s still going to be a liability in 2016. byron. the interesting things about her remarks about obamacare, she joins other democrats in saying that it has to be fixed. but, as senator johnson was saying, democrats have all said it needs to be fixed, but they haven t come up wit