government controlling everything. what s interesting about this to me is, we get this obamacare in place and we were told it was going to do all these wonderful things, okay now were told no, that s pase but obamacare doesn t cover it but medicare for all which means medicare for no one because they re going to eliminate it and all private healthcare in order to run it through the veterans administration or the dmv, their programs almost never work and yet the answer to their programs is more government. we just haven t tried enough, we haven t spent enough, we haven t done enough, this is one of the reasons i wanted you on the program so people can understand here is a real living success story, a capitalist who came from nothing and produces something that we all need and all want
government controlling everything. what s interesting about this to me is, we get this obamacare in place and we were told it was going to do all these wonderful things, okay now were told no, that s pase but obamacare doesn t cover it but medicare for all which means medicare for no one because they re going to eliminate it and all private healthcare in order to run it through the veterans administration or the dmv, their programs almost never work and yet the answer to their programs is more government. we just haven t tried enough, we haven t spent enough, we haven t done enough, this is one of the reasons i wanted you on the program so people can understand here is a real living success story, a capitalist who came from nothing and produces something that we all need and all want and contributes to society as
obamacare. not only is a part of the obama-biden administration, but saying this is the law of the land, it has higher popularity than ever before. i know there isn t an alternative to it that people think is workable. that s what s important. as far as the coverage for illegal immigrants, they asked specifically about the government plan. we need to know the details of how that works from someone like joe biden, because if you are keeping obamacare harris: or how to pay for it. jessica: obamacare doesn t cover illegals in this country. so i need to know how that works. jason: that s the thing, i was in the audience. i was sitting at the seat of the union when barack obama actually said, obamacare will not cover people that are here illegally. that s when, famously, representative joe wilson said you lie! on that particular topic, it created a moment. for joe biden to raise his hand and say, of course! melissa: i think it s interesting you didn t have moderators push
might be on the other foot. dana: to think we can actually say obamacare doesn t need to be addressed legislatively any longer? it has a gaping hole in it. it s moving administratively. we still think obamacare was a huge mistake for the country. we didn t have the votes, regretfully, to repeal and replace it. we are still trying to move it in a competitive direction. dana: what would you say to people that are concerned about america being so divided today? you ve been around a while. are these better than what people think? let me make people feel better. it pales in comparison to what thomas jefferson and john adams said about each other. we haven t had a single instance where a congressman from south carolina came over and was
affordable care act. affordable care act. president trump says obamacare doesn t exist anymore. take a listen. it s gone. you shouldn t mention it. there s no such thing as obamacare anymore. i said this years ago, it s a concept that couldn t have worked and in its best days it could not have worked. the affordable care act is the law of the land. we have no idea what is going to replace it, if anything, anytime soon. joining us now is the former acting administrator of the center s for medicare and medicaid services. what am i missing? i guess he is saying that politically, i guess, they are going to move away from this. what is your take on that