congressional budget office. republicans keep pointingut the cbo score was not accurate on obamacare. here s some of what sean spicer had to say about it this week. the cbo score is about to come out next week and you just called into question their credibility. i didn t just so their clear, their record is what i m calling into question. when you look at the number of people and the costs on what they scored the last obamacare bill on, it s it s way off. that s not that s a fact. that s not anything more than that. all i m saying is look at the cbo s record on obamacare. it s vastly off. they projected 20 million to be on obamacare, it s 12 million. they re way off in term of millions. it s not a question of whether i m questioning anyone that can do basic math can understand that their projections for bokt last time were way, way off the mark. my only point is we need to understand the track record when
that is because of technology and globalism but it s rapidly accelerated and it elected donald trump, yet, donald trump is surrounding himself with billionaires and trying to pass legislation that makes the rich richer and makes the poor poorer. joining us from washington, a member of the budget committee democratic senator chris van hollen of maryland. very good to see you. are you seeing a little bit of kind of like the past is pro log again? the same thing happening all over again? what is your take? well, i think we now know why they kept this secret for so long and i think you ve just put your finger on what americans are going to be most surprised about in this so-called obamacare replacement which are these huge tax cuts to the wealthiest americans. the joint tax committee says $600 billion of tax cuts. if you re in the one-tenth of 1%, you re going to get an average tax cut of 200,000.
i don t know if he can do that. does anybody here think he can have that he can show restrain. i m sure it s within him. also a line from hamilton. tough less, smile more. tweet less, smile more. tweet less, smile more. it s so easy. hamilton. from aaron burr to donald trump, tweet less, smile more. coming up the conservative club for growth doesn t just oppose the current house plan to replace obamacare, it s actually pressuring republicans to vote against it. ahead, we will speak with the head of that group former congressman david mcintosh who yesterday, met with the president. in 2012, donald trump tweeted jon huntsman called to see me. i said no. he gave away our country to china! now president trump has tapped jon huntsman to give our country away to russia! we will explain that ahead on morning joe. here s to the wildcats til we die.
feel is astonishing opinion obamacare was not done when obama was elected. i think people need to realize this. obamacare was the product of years and years of debate within the liberal and progressive democratic community about what health care should be like in an age you probably weren t able to do anything close to single payor. they ended up pretty close to what mitt romney did in massachusetts just to apply nationally. the debate within the republican circles hasn t been as rigorous about what the replacement for obamacare should be and you re seeing the product of it now where you have this thing slapped together. yeah. they don t even know. mika, they don t even know. we were talking to jim jordan, one of the most influential conservatives on the hill who said i haven t even seen the bill. rand paul tried to get in to see the bill last week. they locked him out. this is insanity when you think, again, you think you re going to shove this down the throats of men and women that
medicaid expansion who isn t wealthy enough to get the tax credit as you envision it? who under a plan crafted by the club for growth would see their ability to get care slashed? because they don t have enough money and can t get covered by the medicaid expansion? sam, that is a great question. frankly, we have the best answer. when you start competing over state lines and taking off the regulations in obamacare, they will have affordable health insurance. the rates will go down. under the ryan care bill, none of the rates will go down and you re right. at that point, they are stuck with these two expensive health options. under our plan with full competition, they will have an affordable health care policy available to them as an individual or as part of a small group or as part of their employees and they will be protected and have a lot better options than they do under either obamacare or this new ryan care version. david mcintosh, thank you very much. bill kristol, thank you a