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upper edges of that margin with a bit of a lead, and it shows he s actually gained some ground and surged ahead since the last time this particular poll did a survey. and amongindependents, which will be so important in these battleground states, romney also has a six-point lead over president obama. north carolina, a state that is traditionally red, turned blue during the 2008 obama victory, but the romney camp believes notwithstanding the attempt to hold a convention here, they will be able to carry this state and make it a waste of time and money for democrats to have held their convention here. it s only monday. we ve got four days to watch the democrats have their show, but republicans are going to do everything they can to try to overshadow it or undercut it, and paul ryan s going to lead that charge today. jon: carl cameron there covering the big convention. carl, thank you. and the day before that convention gets underway, democrats are still struggling to come up with a good
board. we saw earlier this week where the gop, they tried to fight, but that fight lasted all of, what, a half day, before they realized that, you know, this is just a fight we probably can t win pat, pat republicans are very smart. who s going to defend wall street here when, as you say, a lot. populist on the right, most of the tea partiers are with the most progressive democrats. i don t think anybody really knows what s in this bill, quite frankly, out in the country. clearly, being anti-wall street reform is a good thing. republicans are very smart, joe. don t give obama victory. give him a by. this is a nothing bugger. that s what the republicans are saying. we ll go along. we can get 80 votes. the republicans also need something to campaign on november. they can t be the party of no. they have to be the party of yes, too. so this gives them something to campaign on in november that they, too, are for something, reform and cleaning up wall