that s all we do. our membership quintupled over the 2012 cycle. that is an astronomical level of political engagement and we need to take it through. here s the question, though. why was it there was such a dip between 2010 and 2012. and nalini, you work on channelling is energy into politics. how do you understand that dip after the obama machine had built this incredible, incredible get out the vote operation, that totally changed the electoral map. absolutely. in 2008, a lot of it was the narrative was hope, change, you know, young people turned out, women turned out, latinos turned out in a big way in 2008, as they did in 2012. but you saw a dip, because a lot of these things weren t necessarily you know, we had a student debt crisis. we have a climate change crisis. and we did get health care, we got the affordable care act, but what you see is a lot of times in off year elections, in state and local elections, fewer people turn out. the same year as off year elections, mid
to take it through. here s the question, though. why was it there was such a dip between 2010 and 2012. and nalini, you work on channelling is energy into politics. how do you understand that dip after the obama machine had built this incredible, incredible get out the vote operation, that totally changed the electoral map. absolutely. in 2008, a lot of it was the narrative was hope, change, you know, young people turned out, women turned out, latinos turned out in a big way in 2008, as they did in 2012. but you saw a dip, because a lot of these things weren t necessarily you know, we had a student debt crisis. we have a climate change crisis. and we did get health care, we got the affordable care act, but what you see is a lot of times in off year elections, in state and local elections, fewer people turn out. the same year as off year elections, midterm elections is when we happen to elect governors and that s when people need to go out and vote as well. we are living with th
the obama machine. when those two things come together in 2016, the republicans have a really tough job. there is a reason that there has been nobody from the complete outside come in and run for president for either party. you to have a network and an organization. one of the best things i think that dr. ben carson can do, if he is seriously considering this, is to enjoy a little bit of spotlight now. not every tv show right now. find some people that can advise you and go out to the cabin in the woods for three months and think. get four stages deep in the question. the problem with the republicans is they fall in and out of love with people in if hours. nobody can have any staying power. now we don t like rand paul because he his policy on immigration is bad. they get all thrown up in the air. eric: greg? greg: yeah. okay. i want to go through the these are all the recent
important. especially when the other people are tired and fed up with the manufacturer political figures that come in, that are just about winning instead of trying to do the right thing about it. eric: r.b., respond. democrat is nervous about this guy? bob: shaking in your boots and up all night long. every cycle; particularly, the republicans bring in somebody who is an outsider, because they re an outsider and they say it like it is and the rest of it. donald trump, down the list, they all get knocked out. kimberly: joe the plumber. bob: who? greg: joe the plumber. bob: carson may be engaged guy but in end he won t stand up to rigors of presidential politics. presidential politics is the toughest business you can go through. as tough as kimberly: not good under pressure. dana: i agree with bob. i don t think the left is worried at all. they have something in hillary clinton and in the buildup of the clinton machine and then the obama machine.
wanted to be president less than anyone i know in my life h.no desire to run. if he could have found somebody else to take his place he would have been ecstatic to step aside. what do you make of this? my eyes opened on that story because we know that mitt romney has run twice for the presidency. there were seven or eight other candidates very willing to take the lead there during the primary season. you know what s interesting about these postmortem store sis all of a sudden the campaign comes clean here s what we missed and didn t know. the romney campaign in this story today talking about, you know, we re surprised by obama s get out the vote strength and everybody was talking about that during the campaign. they pledged they were able to match that obama machine and that they had learned from john mccain s unsuccessful effort four years before so i didn t find all of it all that convincing, people trying to look back now and, you know, i think what is true that the republicans wi