happened. so i would say right now the perception of putting yourself on a limb for the united states is one that most will decide they shouldn t do. erdogan. what do you do about him? and it does seem as if and i ve asked this of a few experts like yourself it does seem as if obama couldn t mismanaged the relationship and that trump s mismanaging the relationship. i i you know, the motives may be different for the mismanagement but it s being mismanaged. look, erdogan is going to create a problem for anybody who s trying to deal with him. one thing i think we have to keep in mind is even though he is basically now put all the tools of power at his command, all the institutions at his command within turkey. the reality is he lost the vote in instan bull. y and, in fact, the vote the second time was a dramatic vote in which it was clear he was rejected. we shouldn t confuse erdogan with being turkey forever.
will likely be technically a trump appointee. bill taylor, the acting u.s. ambassador to ukraine has reportedly given the most damning testimony yet to impeachment investigators. certainly, his opening statement we ve all seen was pretty damning. some democrats have even called his detailed account of a potential quid pro quo a game changer. it may not just be what he said that makes him so valuable to democrats but who he is. west point grad. highly decorated vietnam war veteran. a seasoned diplomat who has served every president since reagan. with me now is ambassador dennis ross who s known who who is certainly known bill taylor for more than 25 years. also, an expert in both the middle east and russia. served administrations going back to two bushes, clinton, obama. been around the block with quite a few administrations. and he s the co-author of the new book be strong and of good coura courage. dennis ross, thanks for coming on. sure. bill taylor.
works both ways, if people step back and calm count stuff could get done? i think everybody needs to breathe. it s on both sides. but i know the president exasperates it. we were fine until he announced he was coming. i saw it on both sides. we want to bring the community together. neil: personally, he was good with you. there was no friction with you or you with him? we had a pleasant conversation. but it was senator brown and i did push him to do something, particular around the assault weapon ban. he kind of said, well, you know, obama couldn t get it done. i said maybe you can get something done that president obama couldn t get done. you can find the votes. neil: that s a challenge the way you responded. i don t know. i never met him before. neil: thanks, mayor nan whalely. the president is now in el paso.
we have ever had. by the way, african-american unemployment is the lowest in history. criminal justice reform, obama couldn t do it. i got it done. he couldn t do it. he didn t even come close. they are very thankful. if you look at all of the opportunity zones, inner-city opportunity zones come almost all of them. african-americans. the african-american people don t listen, they know what is going on. elijah cummings i m not angry. i m telling you the facts. i am not angry at anybody. i am just saying elijah cummings has been there for 26 years and he has by far he is the highest ranking politician and he has seen these mayors get thrown out, thrown out, they are all friends of his. the corruption in baltimore is
the broader problem for president trump in all of this is if he is running for re-election plenty of people don t like him, his attitude, the way he treats people and the tweets and the rest of it, willing to kind of look past that if the economy is booming and rocking. that s his ticket to is booming rocking. that is the ticket that is enough to win in 2020. if he doesn t have that, obama-style economy of 2% to 3% growth, what is the argument for people who may be on the fence re-electing him to go for him. the biggest case is, look, if you go away way, you are not going to have a great economy, great jobs and growth and all the rest of it. he doesn t have it. that is coupled with a trade war subtracting from growth in the second quarter. it is getting larger, not smaller. none of the stuff that he is doing is working. rcharles, take me to wisconsin. you mentioned the stock market. ben and i can sit here in new york while people look at stocks and say that s good enough for me. but