Also running like he did in 2016, as an outsider. In 2016 he did not have the organization, now he does. And he is running as an outsider so the duality of his campaign is a feature that we will continue to see. Antiestablishment an establishment free. Im involved with the Herbert Hoover President ial library. I think the story of iowa is a story of the gop elites versus the gop grassroots, because, what you have in iowa is gop elites, kim reynolds, former elected to are no longer in office but used to run the state, theyve all decided that they are friends with Donald Trump that they are going to support someone else. I interviewed him last night and he is supporting desantis. Its almost like they got in
he s an entrepreneur. there are a lot of folks in the republican voting electorate that just really want someone who isn t of the establishment, isn t institutional. what s fun about watching republican candidates is that even if they ve been part of the establishment for a long time, they contort themselves into being antiestablishment, whereas someone like vivek and to some extent doug burgum are generally outside looking in, i don t think people think of north dakota as particularly close to the beltway, which is where doug s from and vivek has been outside of police almost entirely, which makes him a a very appealing figure. there are a lot of folks who underestimate vivek because he hasn t held elected office and he s from the outside. look at the republican choice in 2016, it was an outsider and obviously i think they got it very wrong with donald trump, but you can t underestimate that appeal in a republican base that is more and more anti-institutional. well, i know you were
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kids putting a band together that shared a lot of the same ethos and ideals? absolutely, without question. but, we are very clear about it. we were trying to make a great three minute pop songs. what great three minute pop songs. what about the punk great three minute pop songs. what about the punk bits? great three minute pop songs. what about the punk bits? you said it was, if it was anything, it was antiestablishment. it was the ability to say, there is something wrong with the way things are organised. for wrong with the way things are organised- organised. for me, it is not necessarily organised. for me, it is not necessarily an organised. for me, it is not i necessarily an establishment, organised. for me, it is not - necessarily an establishment, it is anti what is going on is not working. and, for us who are old enough, bearing in mind the mid i9 70s, if the united kingdom was ever right for revelation, then it was a mid i9 70s. now, in northern ireland and in derry, w
as well. jesse: well, what about the kennedy name and that kind of antiestablishment energy that he brings to the table? you can t dismiss that. there is something there. dana: but, let me add something, his presentation style, does it carry the way that other kennedys have in the past. jesse: so he has a voice issue because there s a disability. dana: yeah. jesse: that is going to be something that will hurt him. dana: however, he might be able to get a little bit of traction and some interest from people who are not for vaccine. so he has been against vaccines for a long time. in fact, his own wife had to rebuke him at one point say no we got people we require people to have a covid vaccine to come to a party of ours. you think about what president trump, if he were to become the republican nominee, you can imagine somebody on the right might want to try to go after him like desantis saying look what i did on covid compared to what president trump did. but imagine joe b