russ. i must have done something right. you make me feel good. a piece with nipsey hussle. i was saying rip nipsey and many legends. you re here and we re pairing you up with one of our friends on the show, ruth ben-ghiat, historian, author, nyu professor. an expert on something that is back in the news and so relevant. fascism and the role of authoritarian leaders. she also writes a newsletter called lucid and is the author of five men, including strongmen, from mussolini to the present. welcome to both of you. thank you, ari. appreciate it. santos and what s onyou have your fallback list. yeah, so you know, it s incredible that clip, what how s saying is his street cred on capitol hill coming from being a pathological liar and a fraud. that s how he gets attention.
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under way. now, governor ron desantis saying he would consider presidential pardons for january 6th terrorists if he s elected president. what i m going to do is i m going to do on day one, i will have folks that will get together and look at all of these cases who people are victims of weaponization or political targeting, and we will be aggressive in issuing pardons. joining me now is former gop strategist and cofounder of the lincoln project, rick wilson, and nyu professor ruth ben geought, an expert on fascism and authoritarian leaders also author of the book, strong men, how they rise, why they succeed, and how they fall. rick, i want to start with you because of that audio that we just heard from desantis. the only reason it doesn t concern me is because i know he ll never be president so he won t be in a position to pardon anyone. but what it does say is that he has staked out a position i think all too many republicans