after leading not guilty yesterday. both weisselberg and the trump organization charged. their next court date is set for september 20th. joining me now is reporter and co host of nyc podcast trump inc. which ended earlier this year and david k. johnston columnist and author of the making of donald trump. great to have both of you with us. let s begin with you. help us understand where this investigation goes next and what are the larger implications for the broader trump organization, if you will. how damaging could it be for the company to face these indictments? well, it could be very damaging for them. the trump organization depends on bank loans. they depend on government contracts in many cases and they have golf courses on public land and they have hundreds of millions of dollars in bank loans that may have other