2005. and, look, and it s very interesting that we learned about this once again through the russians. you guys will all remember when the russian ambassador and foreign minister came to the oval office last year, that unbelievable moment when the russian media released photos of the meeting and we learned a lot about it from the russians before we did from our side. so, classic russian technique let s remind people about that. that was when he said to, was it kislyak and lavrov, he had just fired comey and he said, i m so happy to get rid of this nutjob. it relieved all the pressure on me. it was like out of a bad tv series, right? you could never imagine a conversation that blunt and sort of comical happening in the oval office with the russians at a time when he was under investigation for colluding with the russians. and then on top of everything else, he allegedly leaks classified information about a counter terrorist operation. so many things went wrong there. but back
side effect 500 steel jobs or this one factory in indiana. and i mean, he s interested in basically you know, kind of commercials. he s interested in things that he can put on television and point to. that s why i think there s not that much of a contradiction. why on the one hand he wants this kind of nutjob china hawk or larry kudlow. they re both figures i guess more larry and steven, they re figures from television. that s why i think navarro doesn t get the job. he s a loose cannon. we have not seen a lot of the him on tv. i ve spent a lot of time on the phone with him. he s very trumpian. he screams at you. he accuses you of lying. he lies about things you ve said. nice. he s a tough tough guy to talk to. i talked to some of his colleagues, i m forgetting where he teaches. they were thinking of posting on the economics department website we do not agree with peter navarro on any of these economic
there s a strain here that s interesting. let me look after you who has been messed around by these trade agreements for decades. but he s not doing it. he s saying it and it s not really going to help. he s interested in you know, being able to say i saved these side effect 500 steel jobs or this one factory in indiana. and i mean, he s interested in basically you know, kind of commercials. he s interested in things that he can put on television and point to. that s why i think there s not that much of a contradiction. why on the one hand he wants this kind of nutjob china hawk or larry kudlow. they re both figures i guess more larry and steven, they re figures from television. that s why i think navarro doesn t get the job. he s a loose cannon. we have not seen a lot of the him on tv. i ve spent a lot of time on the phone with him.
lester holt, i fired him to stop the investigation. no collusion, obstruction. hey, russian foreign minister and ambassador to the united states from russia, i got rid of that nutjob, it will take pressure off of us. it s all there, sam. it s very dizzying because he said he would testify under oath and now he won t. it s tough to keep track of where his head is at any given moment. people say it s by design or not but there s something to be said about the fact that we ve spent on this show like an hour and a half now almost cleaning up misconceptions and conspiracy theories and trying to correct records just to get back to an agreed upon idea of what the truth is. if that s where we are everyday in our political conversationings, imagine how difficult it is for the casual observer of politics to figure out what the hell is going on. and that is pernicious. we have a public that is willfully being uninformaled by
head of the fbi. he was crazy. a real nutjob. i faced great pressure because of russia. that s taken off. and even though the president pushed back against any obstruction implications in june in the meantime, no collusion, no obstruction. reporter: the president s lawyers are now asserting a new defense, the president cannot obstruct justice because he is the chief law enforcement officer under the constitution s article ii and has every right to express his views of any case. this pushback by the president s lawyer that a president cannot obstruct justice, well, it s still an open question. there is a constitutional dispute over whether a sitting president can be indicted, but as we know from history and the proceedings against president bill clinton, a president can be impeached on charges of obstruction of justice. wolf? yes, indeed. jessica schneider, thank you. president trump is making his feelings about all of this very clear via twitter. let s go to our senior white