ukraine saga. kurt volker reportedly has given closed-door testimony. two weeks ago graham said ifif democrats didn t release a transcript of volker s remarks, he would summon volker before the senate to testify.cr we are still waiting for that to happen too. r we ve asked senator graham repeatedly to come on the show to explain this, among other things. we ve never been successful in getting him here. instead tonight we are joined by senator rand paul.er he served with senator graham. represents the commonwealth of kentucky and has a fantastic new book out called the case against socialism. rand paul joins us tonight. thank you for coming on.uc thanks, tucker. tucker: i don t want to be unfair to any particular senator but i would tell you that i hear a lot from our viewers. what s the answer? how did it start? lindsey graham is the committee chairman. he claimed he would get to the bottom of it and why hasn t he? not just any senator can do this. i can t call a committee hear
infighting within the democratic party become? let s put it this way. late last week, hillary clintonn publicly accused a democraticte presidential candidate of being a russian agent. watch. i m not making any predictions, but i think they ve got their eye on somebody who s currently in the democratic primary. they are grooming her to be the third party candidate. she s a favorite of the russians. tucker: later a spokesman confirmed hillary was in fact talking about tulsi gabbard of anhawaii. keep in mind that gabbard is a sitting member of congress. she is an iraq war veteran. she s currently a major in the u.s. army reserves and yet hillary said she s a traitor to this country and she s not the only one in american politics betraying the country. jill stein too. stein spent decades working as a physician in boston before embarking on a second career as a left-wing activist. last cycle, she ran for president that included a platform for the new deal, the normal list.
i m going to meet. 6,000 miles away, fdr travelsha across the ocean, the u-boat infested waters. churchill, stalin, fdr meet for the first time at the soviet embassy. they plan an operation overlord which we now know as d-day. that changed the war and changed the world. tucker: the logistics of it must ve beenen remarkable. the winter in 43 at the height of the war. from washington to reiman tehra. it was the secret effort because there were assassination attempts all over the place. fdr gets on his presidential yacht, the potomac, they meet up with the uss iowa, the naval destroyer, the newest in the fleet. he is put on there. he s in a wheelchair. they get a modern elevator ontoo there. onto the ship. they start the trek. it s escorted by other ships. while they are over, heading over, they tried to do an exercise to show the president
it s lunacy at the service of a purpose. last friday we had congresswoman gabbard on the show and she explained as well as anyone has. watch. i ve never heard anybody at hillary clinton s level say something like that. the reason why she s doing this is because ultimately she knows that she can t control me. and then if i m elected president, if i m the democratic nominee and elected president, she won t be able to control me. she won t be able to manipulate me. she won t be able to continue to work from behind the curtains to continue these regime change wars that have been so costly. tucker: in other words, it s about power. that shouldn t be a surprise to you or me or anyone, because in washington, everything is about power. for generations, a small group, bipartisan group, has led the country and they ve run it into the ground, if we are being honest about it. they ve mismanaged the economy h in case you haven t noticed. wasted american lives in pointless wars abroad.
is the deep state. the deep state has an enormous amount of power to look at individuals, and so when grahamd and i have fought these fights in the past, i have always fought for having warrants where a real judge in public has to, you have to present probable cause. lindsey has always fought for allowing these to be done secretly. these fisa warrants, allowing americans to be caught up in it. there may be a concern that if we look at the intelligence deep state, as we find out things, their power may diminish and there might be a philosophical difference that he wants to maintain the power and the intelligence community. tucker: it may be, and i bet you the voters of south carolina disagree with him on that. i think voters want to know what happened, what they did to the president. tucker: senator, thank younk so much. appreciate it. if you watch television, you know the world is on the brink of armageddon. democrats tell you that constantly.