despite our profound differences with moscow, the president believes that it would be irresponsible not to test whether we can make progress through high-level engagement with the russians. you can expect president obama will press putin on both of those issues and urge putin to de-escalate tensions in ukraine and to stop propping up syrian president bashar al assad. at least that s the expectations. russia could be slapped, by the way, with more sanctions if it doesn t find a way to draw down its forces. foreign policy experts say the relationship between the u.s. and russia is at its lowest point since the cold war, due in large part to the situation in ukraine but also of course the fact that russia has been harboring nsa leaker edward snowden. the last time president obama and president putin met was the g-20 summit in australia last november. so a lot of time has elapsed. not a whole lot of expectation that this meeting will yield real progress.
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example, to be talking about essentially unilaterally disarming an important national security tool at a time when i ve never seen the threat level higher. nbc s kristin wilkinson at the white house. walk us through what s happening in congress, and are you hearing anything from senator paul s camp about his trying to delay the process again? reporter: senator paul says that is exactly what he intends to do. in a statement he says, i will forethe expiration of the nsa illegal spy program. opponent like paul argue that it is a violation of civil liberty. proponents argue that these programs are necessary to track and protect against terrorists. look here s what is at issue, alex. it is second 215 of the usa patriot act. it essentially gives the government the ability to sweep up the phone records of millions of americans. this was the provision that was exposed by nsa leaker edward
martha: new questions how the federal ruling against the national security agency s data collection program will affect the former government contractor edward snowden, who leaked thousands of confidential documents and got the ball rolling in a lot of ways. he is very proud of that senator rand paul says the case is complicated. while the nsa leaker broke the law, his information did uncover the truth he says, behind this program. here is senator paul. it will have to be some sort of punishment but i think it could be negotiated because he did it to, he did it to reveal something that the government was not telling the truth about in which the courts are now saying was illegal. i think it definitely gives some justification to it. but the other side of the coin is you really can t have people who have privileged information just decide when they re going to reveal it. martha: michael mukasey served as u.s. attorney general under president george w. bush. he joins us now. good to hav